What Do Hedge Funds Think of Technical Analysis?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by SunTrader, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    So you don't day-trade yet presume to know what we all should use when doing so. Ego much.

    As for taking a trade just because "it hit resistance" - come on why do you assume so much about how any of us trade?

    As for luck, there is no such thing.
     
    #101     Jan 31, 2023
  2. taowave

    taowave

    Hmmm,In that case I would say that 99% of my trading vol decisions(short vol) are based on "TA",especially in the indicies..

    I dont consider slope,vol percentiles or IV-HV technical..More quanty..much sexier,dont you agree:)



     
    #102     Jan 31, 2023
  3. Where did I say day traders don’t use charts? I am talking about hedge funds, which I can speak to.
     
    #103     Jan 31, 2023
  4. Strategy vs. tactic. If your strategy is momentum and you’re looking at periodic deltas in slope then that’s a technical tactic, but your disposition is based upon your strategy, which is typically rooted in evidence.

    Similarly if you think vol is cheap or rich based upon the level of spx, that’s based upon understanding the risk premia of vol and its relationship or correlation to spot.

    If you’re doing this:
    “Spx moving against 200 dma, macd solid rsi low, but rising volume, let’s buy call options on spx because I expect a breakout”
    Then you’re lucky to have survived this long. :)
     
    #104     Jan 31, 2023
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  5. Your question was not directed to me, and I certainly wouldn't suggest that someone using only charts would necessarily outperform others. But let's take a crack at it just for argument's sake. (And who here doesn't like to argue, am I right?)

    Suppose you were principally a fundamental trader. Would you for any reason buy an instrument whose price was just going straight into the toilet with no end in sight?

    Alternatively, suppose that you were not especially drawn to the fundamentals of a company or commodity or whatever, but its price was consistently buoyant and rising. Would you wait for supporting fundamentals, which may be slow in coming for one reason or another, before making a foray into it?

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    Again, all just for the sake of argument.
     
    #105     Jan 31, 2023
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  6. Very good illustration of why betting purely on price is speculation and is a terrible idea. Imagine betting on whether price was going to rise or fall based purely on an assumption of autocorrelation.
     
    #106     Jan 31, 2023
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  7. taowave

    taowave

    Gotcha....

    Im going to water it down to strictly buying/selling stocks based on charts only and possibly fundamental metrics..Stops and money management included..

    Im going to go out on a limb and say I think you can generate excess returns by looking at MA and RS,though I have to see how much market capitalization came into play...If I remove the small cap effect,maybe I am wrong



     
    #107     Jan 31, 2023
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    i agree but I wouldn’t even consider those quanty.
     
    #108     Jan 31, 2023
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  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    That's what speculators do. Of course you have to throw in some money management and risk control.
     
    #109     Jan 31, 2023
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    #110     Jan 31, 2023
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