What do dictators want to kill most? Internet now totally dark in Egypt!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wilburbear, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. Larson

    Larson Guest

    Really. I guess they remember what happened in Iraq when all the artifacts were looted and hauled off after the invasion.
     
    #11     Jan 28, 2011
  2. Egypt.......just another in the collateral damage left behind by "planned" codependency of 2nd/3rd tier countries getting conned into debt from the IMF/World Bank/Central Bankers.

    As more countries fall apart at the economic seams, with declining wealth of the citizenry, it just a matter of time! The rising unemployed, broke, and starving citizens will raise hell......this current trend will only get worse.

    This is just the beginning phase reaction to the world wide "financial grid takedown" planned many years ago. Planned economic destabilization in many regions of the world (and even now in the US) is the PROBLEM created so there can be a "planned" SOLUTION. As assets around the world in "going broke" countries drop in value, there will definitely be a BUYER into the planned capitulation.......you can bet your sweet ass on that! :eek:

    Massive debts and continued CODEPENDENT bailouts will be tied (secured) to key assets within each country affected. Expanding TAXATION of the citizens will be locked in to service the newer debts in perfectly "planned" economic enslavement. This whole GAME is just getting started and an acceleration of events will take place the next 12 to 18 months......just watch. :eek:
     
    #12     Jan 28, 2011
  3. Obama may attempt to provide larger funding to websites that support his message but as you can still see you can access anything on the internet. I applaud your imagination though.
     
    #13     Jan 28, 2011
  4. Egypt’s Internet Kill Switch: Coming To America


    http://www.infowars.com/egypts-internet-kill-switch-coming-to-america/


    Steve Watson
    January 28, 2011

    In response to widespread protests and mass unrest, the authoritarian Egyptian government has completely shut down the country’s access to the internet, eliminating the use of social networking websites, other effective tools of communication and organisation, and effectively sealing Egypt off from the rest of the world.

    Internet intelligence authority Renesys has confirmed that “virtually all of Egypt’s Internet addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.”

    “At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet’s global routing table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet traffic with Egypt’s service providers.” Renesys’ analysis states.

    Vodafone said in an emailed statement: “All mobile operators in Egypt have been instructed to suspend services in selected areas. Under Egyptian legislation, the authorities have the right to issue such an order and we are obliged to comply.”

    Prior to the complete shut down, tweets and live mobile phone feeds from the Egyptian protests in Suez and Cairo were providing up to the minute coverage. Links to photos on Twitpic, videos on YouTube and postings on Facebook were aiding protesters organize their movements.

    As The Electronic Freedom Foundation notes, “When protestors in Cario’s Tahir Square experienced an outage in cell phone data service, nearby residents reportedly opened their home Wi-Fii networks to allow protesters to get online.”

    The Egyptian authorities could not stand for this. Following the revelation of Associated Press footage showing a protester being shot dead in the street, one of at least eight victims who have been killed since the uprising began, an apparent Internet kill switch was thrown.

    The action is unprecedented in Internet history. It is clearly the action of a desperate tyrannical government on its last legs.

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s government is also reportedly arresting bloggers, attacking journalists, and rounding up anyone else the regime sees as dissidents.

    Still, the Obama administration, which currently funnels $1.3 billion in military aid to the Egyptian government per year, refuses to condemn the Mubarak regime, and further more, is looking to embrace the exact same internet control mechanism in America.

    Indeed, when Senator Joe Lieberman attempted to justify draconian legislation that would provide President Obama with a figurative kill switch to shut down parts of the Internet indefinitely, he cited the Communist Chinese system of Internet policing as model which America should move towards.

    “Right now China, the government, can disconnect parts of its Internet in case of war and we need to have that here too,” Lieberman told CNN’s Candy Crowley last June.

    Of course, the Chinese government routinely shuts down the already heavily filtered internet at any politically sensitive time, not only “in case of war” as Lieberman claims. Furthermore, Twitter, Facebook and Youtube are all permanently banned.

    News websites in China now require users to register their true identities in order to leave comments, so that any dissident can be tracked and appropriately dealt with. A truly frightening Orwellian reality you may think, yet this exact move towards abolishing Internet anonymity and creating a virtual ID card is a key centerpiece of the US government’s cybersecurity agenda.

    The ‘Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act’ (PCNAA), which now includes a removal of all judicial oversight, is still circulating and will be voted on later this year. Lieberman has stated that the legislation should be made a top priority.

    The recent actions of the Egyptian government in the face of widespread public backlash, and the ongoing stifling of the free flow of information in China should provide a stark warning to Americans that such Internet control mechanisms are the tools of oppressive authoritarian governments and have no place in a free society.
     
    #14     Jan 29, 2011
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  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    http://www.valleynewslive.com/Global/story.asp?S=13925056
    The day part of the Internet died: Egypt goes dark
    Posted: Jan 28, 2011 1:31 AM EST Updated: Jan 29, 2011 3:51 AM EST
    By JORDAN ROBERTSON
    AP Technology Writer

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - About a half-hour past midnight Friday morning in Egypt, the Internet went dead.

    Almost simultaneously, the handful of companies that pipe the Internet into and out of Egypt went dark as protesters were gearing up for a fresh round of demonstrations calling for the end of President Hosni Mubarak's nearly 30-year rule, experts said.

    Egypt has apparently done what many technologists thought was unthinkable for any country with a major Internet economy: It unplugged itself entirely from the Internet to try and silence dissent.

    Experts say it's unlikely that what's happened in Egypt could happen in the United States because the U.S. has numerous Internet providers and ways of connecting to the Internet. Coordinating a simultaneous shutdown would be a massive undertaking.

    "It can't happen here," said Jim Cowie, the chief technology officer and a co-founder of Renesys, a network security firm in Manchester, N.H., that studies Internet disruptions. "How many people would you have to call to shut down the U.S. Internet? Hundreds, thousands maybe? We have enough Internet here that we can have our own Internet. If you cut it off, that leads to a philosophical question: Who got cut off from the Internet, us or the rest of the world?"

    In fact, there are few countries anywhere with all their central Internet connections in one place or so few places that they can be severed at the same time. But the idea of a single "kill switch" to turn the Internet on and off has seduced some American lawmakers, who have pushed for the power to shutter the Internet in a national emergency.

    The Internet blackout in Egypt shows that a country with strong control over its Internet providers apparently can force all of them to pull their plugs at once, something that Cowie called "almost entirely unprecedented in Internet history."

    The outage sets the stage for blowback from the international community and investors. It also sets a precedent for other countries grappling with paralyzing political protests - though censoring the Internet and tampering with traffic to quash protests is nothing new.

    China has long restricted what its people can see online and received renewed scrutiny for the practice when Internet search leader Google Inc. proclaimed a year ago that it would stop censoring its search results in China.

    In 2009, Iran disrupted Internet service to try to curb protests over disputed elections. And two years before that, Burma's Internet was crippled when military leaders apparently took the drastic step of physically disconnecting primary communications links in major cities, a tactic that was foiled by activists armed with cell phones and satellite links.

    Computer experts say what sets Egypt's action apart is that the entire country was disconnected in an apparently coordinated effort, and that all manner of devices are affected, from mobile phones to laptops. It seems, though, that satellite phones would not be affected.

    "Iran never took down any significant portion of their Internet connection - they knew their economy and the markets are dependent on Internet activity," Cowie said.

    When countries are merely blocking certain sites - like Twitter or Facebook - where protesters are coordinating demonstrations, as apparently happened at first in Eqypt, protesters can use "proxy" computers to circumvent the government censors. The proxies "anonymize" traffic and bounce it to computers in other countries that send it along to the restricted sites.

    But when there's no Internet at all, proxies can't work and online communication grinds to a halt.

    Renesys' network sensors showed that Egypt's four primary Internet providers - Link Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr - and all went dark at 12:34 a.m. Those companies shuttle all Internet traffic into and out of Egypt, though many people get their service through additional local providers with different names.

    Italy-based Seabone said no Internet traffic was going into or out of Egypt after 12:30 a.m. local time.

    "There's no way around this with a proxy," Cowie said. "There is literally no route. It's as if the entire country disappeared. You can tell I'm still kind of stunned."

    The technical act of turning off the Internet can be fairly straightforward. It likely requires only a simple change to the instructions for the companies' networking equipment.

    Craig Labovitz, chief scientist for Arbor Networks, a Chelmsford, Mass., security company, said that in countries such as Egypt - with a centralized government and a relatively small number of fiber-optic cables and other ways for the Internet to get piped in - the companies that own the technologies are typically under strict licenses from the government.

    "It's probably a phone call that goes out to half a dozen folks who enter a line on a router configuration file and hit return," Labovitz said. "It's like programming your TiVo - you have things that are set up and you delete one. It's not high-level programming."

    Twitter confirmed Tuesday that its service was being blocked in Egypt, and Facebook reported problems.

    "Iran went through the same pattern," Labovitz said. "Initially there was some level of filtering, and as things deteriorated, the plug was pulled. It looks like Egypt might be following a similar pattern."

    The ease with which Egypt cut itself also means the country can control where the outages are targeted, experts said. So its military facilities, for example, can stay online while the Internet vanishes for everybody else.

    Experts said it was too early to tell which, if any, facilities still have connections in Egypt.

    Cowie said his firm is investigating clues that a small number of small networks might still be available.

    Meanwhile, a program Renesys uses that displays the percentage of each country that is connected to the Internet was showing a figure that he was still struggling to believe. Zero.

    ___

    On The Web: http://renesys.com/blog/
     
    #16     Jan 29, 2011
  7. Everyone should know what's on Mubarak's mind.

    He's stalling for time, so that his son will become Egypt's leader. That way, Egyptians can have 40 more years of an unelected Mubarak (see link below).

    Tell everyone what Mubarak is thinking.

    http://wikileaks.ch/Egyptian-Military-Succession-Plans.html
     
    #17     Jan 29, 2011
  8. pspr

    pspr

    That's no secret. Does a dictator relinquish power to anyone other than a family member without being thown out of office by force? No.

    There are only two questions that remain:

    1) Can the people of Egypt do it? and

    2) If they can, are they going to get something better or worse?

     
    #18     Jan 29, 2011
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    I have to admit that for once I find your post/links useful.
     
    #19     Jan 29, 2011
  10. Well that is because the INFOWARS team is reporting the good stuff that most all "corporate media" will not touch (that is also why DrudgeReport.com is carrying all these INFOWARS stories now too......Matt Drudge "gets it" for what is coming down the pipe!).
     
    #20     Jan 29, 2011