What aren't all options cash settled?

Discussion in 'Options' started by wxytrader, Dec 14, 2023.

  1. cesfx

    cesfx

    It would make no sense to have it all cash settled to satisfy a few retail punters by removing all the possibilities used by most option traders like physical deliveries, synthetics, hedges and other strategies.
     
    #11     Dec 15, 2023
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Yet another useless living in a bubble why (or this is better than that) topic.
     
    #12     Dec 15, 2023
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  3. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    I prefer American style shares settlement. I use early assignment as an indicator.

    I know how to convert my shares to a cash position and/or another options position after an early assignment too.
     
    #13     Dec 15, 2023
  4. mervyn

    mervyn

    well what's the logic. when you are assigned, you are pretty much losing money, that's why the counterparties assign to you. if you are lucky to have enough cash, it makes no difference.
     
    #14     Dec 15, 2023
  5. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    The logic is risk management into the future....not against the past.

    I always hold some cash just for trade management.
     
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    #15     Dec 15, 2023
  6. mervyn

    mervyn

    when you are assigned, it is already in the past tense.
     
    #16     Dec 15, 2023
  7. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    Sure is, and you got assigned in 100 * delta 1's.
     
    #17     Dec 15, 2023
  8. This is just a ridiculous statement you want to be forced into an assignment you likely can't afford and will be placed on margin? There's nothing good about the American style options. They should be discontinued. I only trade xsp for this reason because credit spreads are not defined risk on American style options.
     
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    #18     Dec 15, 2023
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  9. cesfx

    cesfx

    You are not always losing money when assigned. You can be assigned or manually excercise any itm long and be positive.

    I like to trade cash settled, but with xsp you are leaving a big chunk % between spread and commission. SPX rules.
     
    #19     Dec 15, 2023
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  10. Just sold a weekly 4715/4720 call.

    Hey on late Friday, do market makers factor in theta decay over the weekend so you are basically paying/receiving the same premium as you would on Monday? Or do you get the benefit of the weekend theta decay in return for the risk? If so then Whoo hoo! because I prefer hold positions after close when all the fun happens so this would make it even better.
     
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    #20     Dec 15, 2023