What are your favorite, most reliable indicators?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by dylan57, Dec 23, 2007.

What is your favorite indicator?

  1. MACD

    35 vote(s)
    18.1%
  2. RSI

    19 vote(s)
    9.8%
  3. Fast Stochastics

    4 vote(s)
    2.1%
  4. Slow Stochastics

    12 vote(s)
    6.2%
  5. Williams %r

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  6. Commodity channel index

    13 vote(s)
    6.7%
  7. Bollinger bands

    16 vote(s)
    8.3%
  8. other

    92 vote(s)
    47.7%
  1. MTraderpn

    MTraderpn

    EMA´s and Support/Resist. just it.
     
    #41     Jan 5, 2008
  2. Hello, I don't usually participate in this forum but decided to give my 2c$ on this topic since I also suffered for a long time from the "over technical indicator" sickness...

    Over and over people continue trying to find the "perfect" indicator and don't get the wrong, they all seem to make a lot of sense "after the fact" ... get just about ANY indicator, look back in the charts and you will notice they all "worked" and gave you fantastic signals... the only issue is that they don't work on the "right edge" of the chart :)

    I personally limit myself to Price and Volume, supply and demand. It's not hard if you spend enough time training your eyes to "see it" in the charts... it's all there.

    I'm also often puzzled to see how we traders make brokers rich by overtrading, when, really, all you need is a couple of good trades per week/month/year... not thousands... not to mention we also make the charting software/data feed companies richer too by buying the 1,670 indicators-"Get me rich" packages....

    Here's a chart that tries to depict what I mean about my indicator -- it's called "oops, I failed to drop and found buyers, go long and stay until buyers are no longer interested" or "oops, I failed to go up and didn't find buyers at support, go short and stay short until it finds more buyers than sellers again..."

    This "indicator" :) has been working for me and I trade stocks but have used to trade fx, futures and they're all the same...

    I've read some of the threads at ET on price action and volume and there are some very bright minds on that subject.

    If you are interested, I have a blog at TradeForGain.com and from time to time I write about the pv interactions, search for the "Trades" category, they are live trades too... Not trying to sell you anything BTW.. don't even have Google ads.

    Good luck to you.

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1737989"></img>
     
    #42     Jan 6, 2008
  3. thanks for the chart Sharp - well presented

    :)
     
    #43     Jan 6, 2008
  4. DITTO!!!
     
    #44     Jan 6, 2008
  5. MTraderpn

    MTraderpn

    You said everthing Sharp,the price moves is what really matters.And EMA´S show(at least to me) price moves and if they´re moving up ,stay with the buyers,if down ,with the sellers.This is so simple but i took a long time and big losses to "SEE" it.Good luck 4 you.
     
    #45     Jan 6, 2008
  6. 4XIS4U

    4XIS4U

    Sharp, nice to see that you joined ET, I enjoy your blog and have posted a couple your urls here. I feel my trading has been improving since I started to look solely at the pv relationship.
     
    #46     Jan 6, 2008
  7. JBTrade

    JBTrade

    I prefer to use the pure price action and volume data presented in charts to analyze the supply-demand relationships and group psychology within the markets. Otherwise, you’re just using a third layer of highly subjective information to analyze the chart itself - if that makes sense.

    Indicators are basically worthless, especially once you understand their underlying formulas; indicators present answers to questions that need not be asked. Plus, the information conveyed by indicators is redundant and inferior to the information conveyed by price action itself anyway - not to mention late.

    Overbought and oversold indicator are based on arbitrary mathematical formulas which serve as no comparison to a proper understanding of support and resistance, which unfortunately is rare even among ‘price action’ traders and even leading authors. Likewise, a positive reading in a momentum indicator is not necessary to identify an uptrend and gauge its strength, its pretty obvious at that point.

    All too often, traders attempt to find that perfect set of indicators with the perfect settings; but thats never going to happen. However, indicators can be used in regard to scanning, and their period settings can be used to correlate scans to certain events in the overall market - but you’re still going to have to apply price action and volume analysis to the potentials you’ve narrowed down.

    There are a few exceptions; I use moving averages to an extent, the proper understanding of moving averages in relation to price can replace almost all other indicators, but I only treat moving averages as visual aids to speed up my analysis; I don’t use moving averages in terms of support and resistance, cross-over type signals, or anything like that.

    Although I don’t use it anymore, the OBV is a good indicator to simply speed up volume analysis. It’s a cumulative total of volume, with each positive day’s volume added to the total, and each negative day’s volume subtracted from the total - this is one of few indicators that manages to present an answer to a question that I might actually find myself asking.

    The McClellan Oscillator is another exception, this is a stand alone oscillator based on market breadth internals, so it will appear exactly the same no matter which symbol you attach it to. Market breadth and sentiment internals are extremely important and highly reliable if analyzed properly.

    Speaking of which, the indicators I use most often are a set of custom internals based on market breadth and sentiment. Depending on the time frame, they use data such as; the tick, the trin, advancing issues, advancing volume, declining issues, declining volume, various types of put/call ratios, new highs, new lows, and % above xMA, etc. - and I also keep an eye on the relationships between bonds, currencies, commodities, and equities.

    If you don’t have a good grasp of internals, then I suggest you close any open positions and stop trading until you’ve got them figured out - and once you do: go back over some of your old losses, I guarantee you’ll absolutely want to slap yourself.

    Aside from that, indicators are worthless, there might be a few other slightly useful exceptions, but I moved away from using indicators in general before I found any more. For further information on indicators, check out: Better Teach Me To Use Invest’o MACD+Stochastic Wize Tools™ — Advanced GET Screwed edition, with the Eliot Wave your money goodbye plug in! Its only about $30,000 if you call right now. First 100 callers get Fibonacci cult numerology ceremonial robes.
     
    #47     Jan 7, 2008
  8. Price, Volume, Support and Resistance.
     
    #48     Jan 7, 2008
  9. Price & Larger Macro Trend
     
    #49     Jan 7, 2008
  10. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Poetry, man. Just poetry.
     
    #50     Jan 7, 2008