What are the most valuable lessons you have learned?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by HuntingBenjamins, Jul 28, 2023.

  1. Specterx

    Specterx

    1. Daytrading is a mug’s game. You make far more money with far less stress by focusing on multi-week, -month and -year trends or themes.

    2. Profits don’t scale with activity. It’s far better to focus on identifying the top 5% of opportunities and acquire the skills and guts to really pile on the size and risk, plus the patience to wait for them.

    Taking the above principles to an extreme… a buddy of mine worked for TSLA from 2011 to 2021, got a bunch of stock options, and in one single “trade” exceeded my lifetime grinding-it-out profits by a large margin.
     
    #31     Jul 29, 2023
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  2. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    I am not going to try to discourage you but to get consistently profitable is a tough road. It's a journey through hell that will put you at the brink of insanity.

    I wish that I paper traded a lot more before I put my own money at risk. You have to use your natural talents and gifts to create a strategy and test it on every single timeframe, every single chart, and market condition(s) and make sure that your strategy holds up everywhere. If it fails under any condition then you have to tweak it and re-test it. Then you should go back and paper trade that strategy against different market conditions and to make sure that you have the cajones to execute that strategy when push comes to shove. I felt prepared to trade September - November of 2022 because I went back and practiced paper trading the fall of 2018 correction until I could get it right.

    And then if all of that by itself isn't enough you need to figure out how the entire market and financial system is structured and make sure that the major sources of liquidity have your back.
     
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    #32     Jul 29, 2023
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    @Laissez Faire never say never. It is never too late.

    But I bet you are doing fine all these years or you won't be here.

    Take care.
     
    #33     Jul 29, 2023
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  4. Well what I meant by that is someone said a sentence in here that has stuck very well: “The only reason I took a big loss is I didn’t take the little loss.” Those words are now etched on my brain. It was a huge mistake for me to let it ride as long as I did. Even though the two that got me good recovered (without me riding them) there was no promise that they were going to (even though I suspected they would eventually and was right about that). If presented with the situation again, I’d do a tighter stoploss and if they happened to recover I could pick them up again on the way up. But had they not recovered, the loss would have been way less than what I took. That’s the newly absorbed plan and I’ll tweak it over time.
     
    #34     Jul 29, 2023
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Ok, that's the correct way to think about.

    Although not necessarily a tighter stop that it gets hit too soon.

    Here is an example from yesterday afternoon of the Micro NQ 1 minute chart:

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    Say you entered after a break of previous high, bar with green arrow on top and set stop to be triggered on break of any succeeding bar's low - which happened on next bar (red arrow). Losing right before it moved higher.

    Use price action to determine stop placement, and so this case stop it should be set a tick or two below swing low 3 bars to the left. Then as higher highs are made trail behind each one or two bar low till exit.
     
    #35     Jul 29, 2023
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  6. Hello deaddog,

    Doesn't matter who suffers, big losses leads to losing money and living in drawdown and being an loser trader overall and poor if trader can not making a living doing other things for money. My thinking and writing is only my opinion. LOL, had to write the disclaimer for the great debaters on ET.
     
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    #36     Jul 30, 2023
  7. deaddog

    deaddog

    Hey SML

    I know that so I make a point of not doing that.

    I keep telling wannabe traders to figure out what causes you to lose money and then stop doing that stuff.

    Sound stupid but it works!!
     
    #37     Jul 30, 2023
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  8. Hello deaddog,

    I agree with you 1000% on this.

    It is really great advice actual. Its not about the winning, its about the losing.

    I personally do not care much about the winning side of the trading. I only care about reducing the losses and not doing things that causes big losses.

    Really good advice.
     
    #38     Jul 30, 2023
  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    And it's FREE!!
    From an anonymous source on the interweb!! :)
     
    #39     Jul 30, 2023
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  10. Good Morning deaddog,

    I always appreciate and admire your experienced advice. Especially with having a trading plan.
     
    #40     Jul 30, 2023