What are the largest fortunes ever made by INDEPENDENT traders?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by travelingtrader, Feb 7, 2012.

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  1. And slowing the train comes off the rails........
     
    #151     Feb 26, 2012
  2. Atticus, twice since november, I have taken a small $100 account and turned it into $900 ( and promptly lost it :D ), trading a gold cfd. For an experienced person, why is it so hard to believe that $100 became $1000, $1000 became $10,000, $10,000 became $100,000 etc. ?
     
    #152     Feb 26, 2012
  3. I took $4k to $200k in 14 weeks in exotics -- equity vol DNTs and I literally went all-in on every weekly expiration, going 14 for 14. I hit the dealer's (BOM) position limits and wired out. There is nobody on this Earth that took a CFD or FX spot account from 100 to 6MM. The product simply doesn't support the claim (neither does trading in exotics). Those kind of compounded returns require that the trader go (nearly) all-in w/o regard to notional risk. Looks great on paper, but nobody actually trades that way with any real success.

    So would you like to wager your portfolio net liq on the legitimacy of the 60,000x return? It cannot be done with a portfolio dependent on variation-margin.
     
    #153     Feb 26, 2012
  4. HateTheRisk, isn't trading CFDs. As far as I can gather, he is trading forex. I don't honestly know which currency pairs he works with.

    When I feel a little more skilled, I will likely shift to oil futures. What NoDoji is managing with (CL ? ) looks rather interesting to me.

    As for going all in, I've done this a couple of time with small $100 accounts. Sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn't. I was proposing a few days ago the idea of depositing a single trade risk into forex account and going all in on that account. This works with FXCM since you aren't responsible for a negative balance. You're stopped out before that happens.
     
    #154     Feb 26, 2012
  5. CL is a killer. Everyone on this board who trades it is risking a multiple of their profit target. Every single one of them has a -PF. If your goal is to donate to the CL Gods, then feel free to do so.
     
    #155     Feb 26, 2012

  6. I see. So you don't believe NoDoji's claim of a $90,000 scalping income with $10,000 of tradable capital, trading CL?
     
    #156     Feb 26, 2012
  7. No I don't. Not on the size she's trading. Pure fiction. 9x return on margin (or better assuming the entire 10k is not allocated to haircut) in CL per year? I'd bet that amount that it's BS.
     
    #157     Feb 26, 2012
  8. Do you believe me when I claimed to have doubled by initial $2000 account since the beginning of november, 2011, trading a gold CFD? It was rather funny feeling to be called a liar by bwolinsky of all people.

    Its a strange place, ET. Increasingly, I get the feeling that everybody is full of it. :D
     
    #158     Feb 26, 2012
  9. Sure, nothing out of the ordinary.
     
    #159     Feb 26, 2012
  10. Good. Because, I don't believe it is unreasonable to continue in the same way for the rest of the year, doubling again, and again to about $16,000. That's my year end goal for 2012.
     
    #160     Feb 26, 2012
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