Silk- you got the idea on your first post....and don't be surprised if you only get 1 or 2 out of 20-30orders..... I would tell you the strategy , but I had to print out all the threads myself..and actually read them...then someone gave me some extra pointers and he made me promise not to tell anyone. And I always stick to my word. Look at the threads , it's really not that much reading. good luck. uptik2000