What about North Korea?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 4england, Feb 20, 2003.

  1. skeptic123

    skeptic123 Guest

    "US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has been discussing the possible redeployment of the United States' forces in South Korea".
    "South Korean Prime Minister Goh Kun urged the US on Thursday to delay talks on refiguring its military presence".
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2828553.stm

    Lesson #1 Do not spit on those who saved your ass before and keep protecting you now.
    Lesson #2 In case of a Nuclear Explosion...
    - put your hands over your ears,
    - put your head between your legs,
    - KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE!!!!!!!
     
    #21     Mar 7, 2003
  2. dis

    dis

    He...He...He... Just a few weeks South Koreans sneered that the U.S. might be getting emotional over NK nukes. We ought to let the bastards defend themselves.

    <blockquote>
    S Korea jibs at hawkish US talk

    SOUTH Korea's ruling party said yesterday it feared Washington might be getting emotional in its handling of North Korea's nuclear crisis, a day after US President George W. Bush said he was considering "all options" in the Korean situation.

    Mr Bush said on Saturday that "all options are on the table", suggesting the US could consider military action in its efforts to curb the North's nuclear activities.

    Yesterday, the Stalinist North regime continued its talk of war, accusing Mr Bush of planning to invade the impoverished state and saying a conflict on the divided Korean Peninsula would devastate the South as well.

    "North Korea's recent moves cannot be praised, but <b>we cannot help expressing concern as to whether emotions have interfered with US efforts to resolve the North's nuclear problem,</b>" Chang Chun-hyong, a deputy spokesman of the South's ruling Millennium Democratic Party, said in a statement yesterday.

    Mr Chang was referring to Mr Bush's remarks and those of US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld, who called North Korea "a terrorist regime" on Wednesday. </blockquote>
     
    #22     Mar 7, 2003
  3. Good grief, msfe. Aren't there some Swiss issues you can spend your time and energy on?!? Are things so boring in your own country, things so perfect and pure and orderly, all Swiss citizens 100% united on all issues, that you need to devote your attention to criticizing my country?

    Really makes me wonder if you are indeed Swiss and not some Islamic fundamentalist hanging out in Hamburg with Wild.
     
    #23     Mar 8, 2003
  4. msfe

    msfe

    `Don't Let Them Surrender. Too many times Americans have won a splendid war only to lose the peace. One problem is the end game, the whole problem of surrender, who we accept surrender from, on what terms, etc. During the Gulf War we approached perfection by not letting them surrender. First, we set the goal of "unconditional Iraqi withdrawal from Kuwait." When Iraq accepted these terms, we complained that they didn't accept reparations, they weren't clear about coming out with their hands up, and besides, we wanted to hear it from Saddam himself. When Saddam himself complied, we raised all the above objections, and we kept bombing, or "pounding." (Hey guys, how about coming up with a synonym for "pound"? If I had a dime for every time the media used "pound," I'd be a very rich man.)

    And then, when they obviously began to withdraw, we said: "That's not 'withdrawal' (good); that's 'retreat' (bad)."

    Demanding "unconditional surrender," as we did in World War II, was great, but again we got bogged down in end-game problems. Clearly, the best strategy for the end game is never to accept any surrender at all. Let's just keep "pounding" the enemy till nobody moves. Let's keep it simple and clear-cut. Or to use the common American slogan of divine impatience: "Let's get it over with," or "let's finish the job." If we pound until we kill them all, until nobody moves, then we won't have to worry anymore about "losing the peace." The peace will be ours forever, the job will be finished forever.

    To put a more rigorous twist on the old song:

    We'll be over, We're comin' over, And we won't be back Till there's nothin' over there.´

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch26.html



    Really makes me wonder if Murray N. Rothbard is indeed American and not some Islamic fundamentalist hanging out in Hamburg with Wild.

    msfe
     
    #24     Mar 8, 2003
  5. Americans with such opinions at least live in and are citizens of this country and thus are not only directly affected but will be the most affected by the coming war (save the Iraqis, of course).

    So again, aren't there some Swiss issues you can spend your time and energy on?!? Are things so boring in your own country, things so perfect and pure and orderly, all Swiss citizens 100% united on all issues, that you need to devote your attention to criticizing my country?
     
    #25     Mar 8, 2003
  6. You forgot the obvious poll option... the USA...

    But, given that I could not vote on that, I voted North Korea...
     
    #26     Mar 9, 2003
  7. Josh_B

    Josh_B

    ...The document's most politically sensitive information, however, was about Pakistan. Since 1997, the C.I.A. said, Pakistan had been sharing sophisticated technology, warhead-design information, and weapons-testing data with the Pyongyang regime. Pakistan, one of the Bush Administration's important allies in the war against terrorism, was helping North Korea build the bomb.

    In 1985, North Korea signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which led to the opening of most of its nuclear sites to international inspection. By the early nineteen-nineties, it became evident to American intelligence agencies and international inspectors that the North Koreans were reprocessing more spent fuel than they had declared, and might have separated enough plutonium, a reactor by-product, to fabricate one or two nuclear weapons. The resulting diplomatic crisis was resolved when North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Il, entered into an agreement with the Clinton Administration to stop the nuclear-weapons program in return for economic aid and the construction of two light-water nuclear reactors that, under safeguards, would generate electricity.

    Within three years, however, North Korea had begun using a second method to acquire fissile material. This time, instead of using spent fuel, scientists were trying to produce weapons-grade uranium from natural uranium—with Pakistani technology. One American intelligence official, referring to the C.I.A. report, told me, "It points a clear finger at the Pakistanis. The technical stuff is crystal clear—not hedged and not ambivalent." Referring to North Korea's plutonium project in the early nineteen-nineties, he said, "Before, they were sneaking." Now "it's off the wall. We know they can do a lot more and a lot more quickly."...

    http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/030127fa_fact

    N Korea, Pakistan may not be far away on the attack next list..


    Josh
     
    #27     Mar 27, 2003