a lot of forces in this universe make things happen: which one are talking about? now you wouldn't be referring to the "god" force would you? i dont believe this one has been quantified. care to try?
Well, when I referred to "force," I didn't mean physics. I meant there is a fundamental force that sets into motion all things that we observe, experience, etc. Someone else on this board said it better. They said that god is more of a "verb" than a "noun." I agree completely.
ok but you're not really contributing anything of value by this statement [assumption]. yours is just a general statement of belief. more unfounded beliefs we don't need...
The point of this thread was to prove if any of the mentioned scientists believed in "god", not if they were correct in their beliefs.
i agree. however, this does not diminish my BELIEF in a creator. in addition, it is somewhat comforting to know that many other GREAT minds think the same way. best, surfer
[Einstein:] "Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic [orgy of] freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived...Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience, a skeptical attitude...which has never left me..." BOTTOM LINE HERE = IF YOU'RE RELIGIOUS, START READING SOME SCIENCE BOOKS AND FREE YOUR MIND FROM THE RELIGIOUS PRISON IT IS IN. Bill Gates "Isn't there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?" interviewer Walter Isaacson asks Gates "His face suddenly becomes expressionless," writes Isaacson, "his squeaky voice turns toneless, and he folds his arms across his belly and vigorously rocks back and forth in a mannerism that has become so mimicked at MICROSOFT that a meeting there can resemble a round table of ecstatic rabbis." "I don't have any evidence on that," answers Gates. "I don't have any evidence of that." http://www.celebatheists.com
ahhh, i don't think bill gates ranks with the great minds listed earlier. he would probably agree. larry ellison wouldn't. LOL, surfer
Copernicus a mystic? For God's sake, the guy was a Catholic priest, he should not even be mentioned here as he 'officially' believed in God! And his uncle was a Catholic bishop! Also in his times, it is almost impossible to find any atheist or even agnostic. Those came with the advances in natural science and the Enlightment Age that followed them.
maybe PhDs scientists like banging religious people or religious people like banging scientists - opposites attract. or maybe the PhDs show up and think to themselves "yep no divine intervention today, ha i was right again!"
i have said this many times before, but i'll say it again: even i will totally agree that not all religious people are dumb. religion is usually something engrained (brainwashed) into people at a young age. how intelligent the person is, doesn't really matter. of course there are intelligent people who are religious. however, i WILL SAY, religion can HINDER a intelligent person from thinking outside of tradition--which i HATE. we (man) probably would have made even more great discoveries than we have now if religion wasn't around to screw things up all this time.