Alas, you finally revert to the last resting place of the limited and narrow minded zealots, so convinced in the "rightness" of their own opinion - Ignore all prior discussion, assert your opinion's "obvious" correctness (ignoring that you have no more to base your opinion on than others), dismiss all other points of view out of hand as irrational, and throw in a half-assed, falacious and unrelated inanity upon which to "prove" the (lack of) reason grounds are unnecessary for your own asserted opinion. Bravo. It's apparently impossible for you to imagine anything outside the scope of your personal world view and are so convinced that your view is the only "right" one, that you're unable to recognize the obvious - in the absence of demonstrable evidence in favor AND also not the least evidence to the contrary, neither opinion regarding the existence/non-existence of God has any greater or lesser validity. They are both merely opinions (regardless of how one may wish to claim their opinion to be more than that) without any evidence for or against. Both rationales are understandable and it's easy to see why people could hold either opinion, but you seem unable to see beyond the limit of your own chosen belief. I certainly have no interest in trying to convince you or anyone else in the existence of God - I was attempting to point out that both points of view are equally valid given the stark lack of evidence in favor and equally stark lack of evidence to the contrary. Unfortunately, there are those so vehemently and angrily convinced in their own belief in the non-existence of God that they are just as narrow minded and disturbingly zealotous about shoving their opinion down other's thoats (apparently believing they're saving the poor ignorant schmucks who haven't seen the light) as those who are just as equally convinced in the existence of God and also equally narrow minded and zealotous. Neither can entertain the possibility that their opinion may be wrong - and as such, neither is capable of seeing and understanding the other's point of view. The fervor and anger on the part of those on both ends of the zealot spectrum and their mutual inability to see beyond the fundamental lack of evidentiary support for their respective beliefs continues to ultimately mire every discussion on the topic in "I'm right, you're wrong - if you don't change your mind, you must be stupid or brainwashed or unenlightened" and their mutual desire to shove their personal opinion down the throats of the "unenlightened". One may well ask why it's OK to believe in Stephen Hawking's work (none of which has yet been proven valid - which is the primary reason why he has not won a Nobel Prize) or believe that intelligent life exists on other planets (equally unproven at this time) - but not a God. The most common response to the alien life issue being "well, we're here, so it must be likely that intelligent life exists elsewhere given the immensity of space" (ignoring the relatively fragile combination of things necessary for man to have evolved and survived here on Earth). Yet, (given that very same sheer magnitude of space and its amazing subtlety and complexity) - that there are those who can maintain with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that it all resulted from a happy coincidence of a random vacuum fluctuation from which exuded all matter and energy out of nothingness and that (again with Absolute Certainty) that there is no way it could possibly have been the result of an as yet not understandable intelligent act. You've got to admire the ability of someone living on a tiny dust speck on the outer edge of the Milky Way, using a tiny fraction of their small brain, a mere 50,000 years down the evolutionary path from packs of grunting brutes, not yet venturing more than about 230,000 miles beyond the thin layer of atmosphere that sustains them, and still attempting to plumb the mysteries of the universe with imperfect tools like quantum mechanics - to be able to say that they KNOW with absolute certainty that in the vastness and complexity of the universe (and whatever may lay outside our perception) it all MUST be and can ONLY have been brought into existance by a random accident The human eqo is indeed a fascinating thing. You might as well try to convince a quantum mechanic that non-probabalistic hyperdimensional field dynamics is a better approach than quantum gravity.
An interesting point of view - "we don't have anywhere near all the answers", BUT you can apparently state with absolute certainty that those with a belief in a God are WRONG.
Hmm, how big's the pin? Do you know something about the physical characteristics of angels? Are they small enough to fit on the head of a pin?
no, i never eliminate the possibility of anything unless it can be pretty much 100% eliminated. the concept of a "god" does not bother me THAT much. i still think it's ridiculous to claim you know a "god" exists, worship one, or put "in god we trust" on money, when there's nothing to justify it. HOWEVER, what REALLY bugs me are the people who claim a "god" exists, AND they know who/what it is! i'm talking about ones who talk about this obviously fake bible bullshit! there is NO WAY human beings on earth have all the answers!! NO WAY!!!!