Well, What a Day!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Arnie Guitar, Feb 28, 2025.

  1. Deep.
     
    #61     Mar 1, 2025
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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    #62     Mar 1, 2025
  3. volpri

    volpri

    Did Ukraine wanting to join NATO the straw that broke the camels back? Russia not going to allow that. Can't really blame them can we?

    We done enough. Not our war. We cannot stand up for everyone's freedom and finance their wars. We should stay out of the different countries wars. Trump is not the warmonger they accuse him of being (unless talking of tariff wars LOL).

    We have no business providing security for Ukraine on our taxpayers dime. We offered to do so in exchange for some of their resources to help pay. They were trying to hardball us so let them pay. So, let them keep their resources and fight their war.

    Mr Z I doubt will last. He will resign or be kicked out by his own people.

    All we catch is criticism getting involved in internal affairs of other countries. And we pay $$$ to get that criticism so we just need to let them finance their own ideas and wars. We cannot and should not be the policeman of the world. We are tired of all this. We can't do nothing right to suit the world so let them have at it and solve their own set of problems.

    We probably should just exit NATO. They can finance their own defense. They don't need us.
     
    #63     Mar 1, 2025
  4. volpri

    volpri

    See what I mean. No matter what we do we get bitched at. Let the world pay for their own stuff. Finance their own ideas. Make their own alliances. Fight their own wars. Leave us out. We don't need them. We don't need them nor what they produce and they really don't need us. So let's go our separate ways. To each his own. We don't need to be a world leader. Obviously the world doesn't think we are so we should just oblige them.
     
    #64     Mar 1, 2025
  5. First of all you're repeating Russian propaganda - just like Trump is doing. Second, even if it's true, Russia should not be allowed to dictate which country is a NATO member or not. NATO is a defense alliance.

    And as can be clearly seen, Ukraine's worries were rational as Russia indeed turned out to be a real threat. Remember, they launched a full war against Ukraine in 2022. Although Trump and his cowardly goons won't admit that.
     
    #65     Mar 1, 2025
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  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    The U.S. enjoys luxury due to the dollar’s global reserve currency status. The U.S. doesn’t just “help” other nations, it extracts wealth from the entire world through seigniorage, debt issuance, and the petrodollar system. The ability to print money that other nations must accept in trade (while those same nations have to hold real reserves) gives America an economic advantage that no other country has.

    If the U.S. were to truly “go its own way” and abandon leadership in global finance, alliances, and security, the dollar's dominance would erode. The economic pain from losing that “free ride” would be far greater than the costs of maintaining influence.

    Though, 96 percent of humanity escaping Facebook, X and more would make the rest of the world a better place.
     
    #66     Mar 1, 2025
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  7. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    It's perhaps worthwhile explaining that another way. Often economists point to the parallels between the Roman empire taxing provence and the US' hegemony but ordinary people, outside the USA don't experience it like that. It's much more sneaky.

    A modern comparison would be how Argentina or any other developing country must handle an economic crisis versus how the U.S. "solves" its crises by exporting the pain. And fat-heads there think it's the sweat off their brow saved the day.

    1. A Typical Economy in Crisis (e.g., Argentina, Turkey, or Sri Lanka)

    When a country faces economic turmoil—high debt, inflation, or a financial collapse—it does not have the luxury of printing unlimited money. Instead, it must:

    Raise interest rates aggressively → This crushes borrowing and slows the economy.

    Seek an IMF bailout → Which comes with brutal austerity measures (spending cuts, tax hikes).

    Devalue its currency → Making imports more expensive, which causes local inflation to skyrocket.

    Suffer capital flight → Investors flee, worsening the crisis.


    The people in these countries bear immediate pain—job losses, higher prices, and vanishing savings. Their government has no choice but to take the hit, tighten the belt, and hope to recover over time.

    2. What the U.S. Does Instead

    When America faces a crisis (2008 financial crash, COVID stimulus, national debt problems), it:

    Prints trillions of dollars → Directly funding bailouts and stimulus checks.

    Keeps interest rates artificially low → Encouraging borrowing and avoiding economic collapse.

    Lets the world absorb the inflation → Because most global trade is in dollars, the new money doesn’t just stay in the U.S.; it spreads worldwide, reducing domestic damage.

    Attracts more foreign investment anyway → In a crisis, global investors still run to the U.S. dollar for safety, reinforcing its dominance.


    If Argentina or Turkey tried the U.S. approach—just printing money to cover their problems—their currencies would collapse, imports would become unaffordable, and they’d spiral into hyperinflation (which has already happened multiple times). But because the dollar is the world’s reserve currency, the U.S. avoids those consequences and exports its economic stress globally instead.

    Bottom Line

    Most countries have to tighten their belts and take the pain in a crisis. The U.S., on the other hand, just writes itself a blank check and makes the rest of the world help pay for it
     
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    #67     Mar 1, 2025
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  9. Mercor

    Mercor

    Is this how a puppet acts

    Trump to Extend Russia Sanctions for 1 Year
    A White House document slated for release on Friday says sanctions on Russia “must continue in effect beyond March 6, 2025.”
     
    #69     Mar 1, 2025
  10. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    After eliminating the federal staff who pursue Russian Oligarch assets, Trump extends "some" sanctions.

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    #70     Mar 1, 2025