What an about-face ......... Now it's the Democrats rubbing their wealth in the noses of the poor republicans. How stoic and proud the republicans are, demanding less hand outs from the government even in their destitution. what a topsy turvy world, errr .. forum Here's a clue to the clueless, find a Red-Blue map at the COUNTY level. You may find a strong corelation between wealth and Now, how quickly the tone will turn back to the "evil conservatives" hoarding their stolen loot.
We are not barbaric, we spread democracy. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Killers in the Classroom By Dr. June Scorza Terpstra 02/15/07 "ICH " -- -- During a heated debate in a class I teach on social justice, several US Marines who had done tours in Iraq told me that they had "sacrificed" by âservingâ in Iraq so that I could enjoy the freedom to teach in the USA. Parroting their masterâs slogan about âfighting over there so we donât have to fight over hereâ, these students proudly proclaimed that they terrorized and killed defenseless Iraqis. They intimated that their Arab victims are nothing more to them than collateral damage, incidental to their receipt of some money and an education. A room full of students listened as a US Marine told of the invasion of Baghdad and Falluja and how he killed innocent Iraqis at a check point. He called them âcollateral damageâ and said he had followed the ârulesâ. A Muslim-American student in front of him said âI could slap you but then you would kill meâ. A young female Muslim student gasped âI am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.â I knew in that moment that this was what the future of teaching about justice would include: teaching war criminals who sit glaring at me with hatred for daring to speak the truth of their atrocities and who, if paid to, would disappear, torture and kill me. I wondered that night how long I really have in this so called âfreeâ country to teach my students and to be with my children and grandchildren. The American military and mercenary soldiers who âsacrificedâ their lives did not do so for the teacherâs freedom to teach the truth about the so-called war on terror, or any of US history for that matter. They sacrificed their lives, limbs and sanity for money, some education and the thrills of the violence for which they are socially bred. Sacrificing for the âbling and bootyâ in Iraq or Afghanistan, The Philippines, Grenada, Central America, Mexico, Somalia, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any of the other numerous wars and invasions spanning US history as an entity and beginning with their foundational practice of killing the Indians and stealing their land. Many of the classes that I teach now include students who âservedâ in the US military and security corporations. There are also many students who intend to join the US military upon completion of a degree because with the degree they get a bigger âsign onâ bonus of ten to fifty thousand dollars. Their position is supported by many of the student body, who, vegetating according to the American Plan, believe they should âsupport their troopsâ. The excuses that they give for joining or intending to join the US military terrorist training camps are first and foremost motivated by a desire for money. One student proudly said that he is willing to kill for money, a better standard of living and an education. Another student, who had done two tours of duty to the Empire in Iraq, justified killing and torture, citing the importance of staying on top as the worldâs number one super power so that his family could have the highest standard of living and unlimited access to the worldâs oil supplies. Yet another soldier-student said that there would always be wars and someone had to do it. Theâitâ is killing, rape, and plunder for profit. Some of the soldier-students agreed that military terrorism was thrilling. Stopping and killing people at checkpoints in order to maintain a comfortable lifestyle in the USA was worth the risk of being killed or maimed. Little did they know that the very education they would kill for could include a course on social justice in which they would be compelled to examine their motives, beliefs and actions in an evil, illegal, immoral and unjust invasion and occupation of a people who never hurt or harmed them or any of their fellow citizens. To be fair, in this weekâs discussion in class there was some mention that some of the studentâs intentions had been honorable at the time that they joined the military. They wanted to âhelp other peopleâ. A few woman students who want to join the military commented that they would be working to âfree and defendâ people here and abroad. However, for the most part and by their own admission, personal financial gain was their main focus in signing on. Their bottom line was getting the money and their thrills by joining and belonging to the biggest terrorist organization in the world, the USA. What appears to trouble the soldier student is that the rhetoric of fighting for freedom and democracy is a lie that cannot blanket the horror and guilt of their terrorism. They do not want to hear that participation in invasion and occupation, murder and pillaging, is logically inconsistent with any legitimate concept of freedom or liberation. They know the greed and programmed lust for violence that motivates them. They expect that if they can make it out alive, they get some money, a comfortable lifestyle and an education. Their plan is to secure the oil, the diamonds, the gold, the water, the guns, the drugs, and the bling for their masters, who they hope will cut them in on the swag. They say that someone has to be on top and they want to be on the side of the strong, not the weak. Robbing Hoods, not Robin Hoods. And now, here they sit in my course on social justice, terrorist war criminals, wanting high paying âcriminal justiceâ jobs in a university Justice Studies program. They want approval, appreciation and honors for terrorism, torture, and murder. They want a university degree so they can get an even higher salary terrorizing more people around the world with security companies such as Blackwater or Halliburton. They want that appropriately named âsheepskinâ so they can join the CIA, FBI, and other police and track down and terrorize US residents here. These military and mercenary terrorist-students are trained in terrorist training camps all under the USA, funded by American taxpayers. In fact, people under the USA are âsacrificingâ their health care and their childrenâs educations while donating their tax dollars to these terrorist training camps. These terrorist camps train money hungry working class stiffs to murder, steal and plunder for the power hungry US corporate war lords. There is a saying that âif you do the crime, you do the timeâ. My response is that âIf you do the war crimes, you will do time in hell, whether the hell of war trauma and shock, of diseases such as those caused by depleted uranium, the old-fashioned traditional hell, fire and brimstone assigned to malefactorsâ¦or the hell of sitting in a social justice class and discovering what the hell you are in hell for, or are about to be. Please visit Dr Terpstras' website www.juneterpstra.com
but in many blue states, the wealthiest and best educated enclaves are the most likely to vote Republican and the wealthiest and best educated enclaves in red states are most likely to vote liberal so the rich/ poor argument is limited. It doesn't really come down to education or wealth then. It comes down to ethics. One group votes from the pocketbook and the other is emboldened by disillusionment.
If your comments are true than why are there so many wealthy republicans living in blue states, which may be a detriment to their net worth; and why so many poor people in the red states keep voting against their own economic interest, unlike their counterparts up North? It just doesn't add up?
It's largely religion. The "wealth" areas providing Dem votes are either Jewish or secular Christian. Republicans are favored over Democrats heavily by the following demographics: those who attend weekly religious services, married with children, not Jewish, not gay, not black, not Mexican, college grads, (although the majority of graduate degreed folks are Dems), income of 50k or higher. There's weird shifts among whites. Many old "country club" Republicans are a bit more secular liberal. The fiscal conservative, social moderate type. They're the new "swing" vote. At the same time though many ethnic whites, the children of Reagan Dems are now solid Republican. Vito from Queens would have been an FDR guy in the 30's. Now he's a "backlash" Republican who opposes higher taxes and perceived give aways to minorities. Bottom line. Democrats win on the backs of non-Christian whites and Christian minorities. Throw the black, Mexican and Jewish vote out of the mix and Bush is at 58-59% the past two elections. Keep in mind fabled "blue state" California. Contrast the IMMENSE differences between north and south. In San Diego county Bush won by 6 points, in Orange County Bush won by twenty points gathering 641,000 votes. Riverside is Bush 58-41. Of course Kerry takes minority laden L.A. in a landslide but Ventura goes Bush. In the Bay Area Kerry wins by bigger margins than Bush does in the South. Alameda, SF, Costa County, San Mateo counties rack up as many as 75% for Kerry. California is a microcosm of the whole phenomena......
Very interesting analysis Pabst. It's obvious analizing voting patterns is a hobby of yours. I'll take a stab, Here's how I see it: Women ==> Democrat Men ====> Republican Rural====> Republican Urban====> Democrat White====> Republican All Else====> Democrat Christian===>I don't think it matters a lick Your urban sophisticated, liberal, college-educated types need/demand as much government services as they can get. Parks, libraries, etc ... And many profit directly from such expenditures. Your Cletus, farmer-joes want the government to stay the hell off their land. Reference: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm Women, want to be loved, and given things ... Men, value discipline above all else Black Women, are Republicans at heart. Black Men, ..... are more concerned about how low their pants hang to be bothered with politics Latinos are conservatives at heart, but easily bought by the Democrats Asians,....... I have two asian step brothers, american natives, gifted, engineering types, who are both staunch conservatives. On the whole, Asians strike me as conservative, the ones that vote anyhow. It may be all meaningless anyhow, Bush may have bastardized conservatism to the point where it becomes irrelevant.
I thought electricians are real men and don't (can't) read They sound like republicans to me. The more who get electricuted the better!