Welcome to the No-Lockdown Paradise - Brazil

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, May 29, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    It is interesting to note that many of the replies to this Tweet state that no doctor would write like this - complete with grammar mistakes. Many are stating that the entire thing is fabricated and demanding that the supposed doctor be revealed to have any credibility.
     
    #51     Jun 30, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The only reason the death rate (CFR) is going down in the U.S. is because the majority of cases in recent weeks are people under the age of 50.

    For the month of June the CFR in the U,S. was just above 4.0%. This needs to be taken in context that most deaths typically occur 2 or 3 weeks beyond the infection.

    Still having 4% of the people who test positive die is still a significant percentage. Similarly the hospitalization rate despite the average lower age has not dropped. Younger people are having significant complications from COVID-19.

    The increase in testing has very little to do with the change in CFR (death rate); this is driven by age. It should be noted in most "hot spot" states that the percentage of positive results has increased rather than decreased as the number of tests rose in recent weeks.

    60 percent of coronavirus patients in major Houston hospital system are under 50, Hospital CEO says
    Health officials are warning that infections are rising in younger adults in the U.S.
    https://thehill.com/changing-americ...cent-of-coronavirus-patients-in-major-houston

    '“We are definitely seeing this affect young people, and they’re getting quite ill,” Boom told “Squawk Box” Monday.

    “It has completely flipped,” he added, saying early on in the crisis about 40 percent of patients were under 50. Almost 1 in 3 patients in intensive care units are under 50, compared to about 1 in 5 previously. '
     
    #52     Jun 30, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ah, well if Twitter users are saying it, then it must be true. As I stated, it is anecdotal. But given that there are lots of folks like you who will essentially declare the sky isn't blue as long as it continues the fear mongering, I'm not surprised.
     
    #53     Jun 30, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    What a massively profound statement. Thank you, GWB. So, if I follow you correctly, then we shouldn't put people who are sick with the virus into nursing homes where the old and infirm can catch the virus? And then, if presume to not do that, we can actually respond to a more accurate representation of the mortality rate and not shut the whole fucking country down because we didn't make the first error?

    I mean, what could possibly be the downside to basing the mortality rate off of ONLY a population that is aged and infirm?
     
    #54     Jun 30, 2020
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  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Yep----stick around long enough and Leftist GWB will make your point for you. ---Let it spread, Let is spread, Let it spread. (among the healthy)
     
    #55     Jun 30, 2020
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So the mortality CFR rate moved from 5.88% to about 4%. This lower CFR rate is primarily associated that most of the positive cases are younger in June. This is due to most of these people got infected via "re-opening" activities (going to bars, etc.) or from protest marches. The people involved in these activities are primarily from a young demographic.

    I will agree with you that we should not put people who are sick with the virus into nursing or care homes. This was a tragic mistake in N.Y. and other states. Cuomo should have stepped up and accepted responsibility for this mistake saying "the buck stops here" - but he did not.
     
    #56     Jun 30, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Even if you are young and have a lower risk of dying.... you don't want to catch COVID... it isn't just a mild flu for many young people and can leave you with long term health consequences.

    'The sickest I've been': 3 young people share what it's like to have COVID-19
    Some young people think they're not at risk for severe coronavirus symptoms. Three young people dispel this myth with their own harrowing experiences.
    https://www.today.com/health/3-young-people-coronavirus-tell-first-hand-stories-t176519
     
    #57     Jun 30, 2020
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  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    https://www.businessinsider.com/what-coronavirus-mild-symptoms-are-fever-2020-3?op=1
    80% of COVID-19 patients experience 'mild' symptoms — but that likely still involves a fever and cough
     
    #58     Jun 30, 2020
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So 20% endure serious health consequences. 12% are hospitalized. As a society we should seek to avoid this catastrophe.

    This is the equivalent of saying that 80% of people only got mild polio cases so we should have let it run freely through society.
     
    #59     Jun 30, 2020
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    You do understand that we did not lockdown during polio right? By the way, polio was passed from person to person by not washing hands and touching your face/mouth etc. The disease passed in fecal matter. 70 to 80 percent had mild or no symptoms.---No lockdown.
     
    #60     Jun 30, 2020