Weekly Pin Butterfly Strategy

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  1. caroy

    caroy

    Week 11 - Update

    A couple filled and closed yesterday to today
    VXX hedge + 1 11 call @ $0.36
    BLNK 1:3:2 35-40-42.5 call @ $1.64 sold $2.15 +$0.51
    RIOT 1:2:1 50-55-60 call @ $1.27 sold @ $1.75 +$0.48
    BABA 1:3:2 215-220-230 put @ $2.15
    BYND 1:2:1 130-145-140 call @ $1.63
    ETSY 1:3:2 200-210-215 call @ $3.60
    JMIA 1:3:2 25-39-41 call @$1.00
    MARA 1:2:1 40-45-50 put @$1.94
    PTON 1:2:1 112-115-118 call @$0.87
    ROKU 1:2:1 290-300-310 put @$2.26
    TLRY 1:2:1 22-25-28 call @$0.84
    TSLA 1:2:1 640-650-660 put @1.41

    hoping they pin
     
    #81     Mar 31, 2021
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  2. .sigma

    .sigma

    If I were you, if you’re strictly looking for a pin off OI, use symmetric classic naturals instead of ratio/skip-strikes. The 121 sym is a better fit for a pin, while the ratio’d variations are more suited for more complex bias’s (drift, vol, delta, etc etc)
     
    #82     Apr 1, 2021
  3. caroy

    caroy

    Will have to ponder this.
     
    #83     Apr 1, 2021
  4. caroy

    caroy

    VXX hedge + 1 11 call @ $0.36
    BLNK 1:3:2 35-40-42.5 call @ $1.64 sold $2.15 +$0.51
    RIOT 1:2:1 50-55-60 call @ $1.27 sold @ $1.75 +$0.48
    BABA 1:3:2 215-220-230 put @ $2.15 sold @ $4.70 +$2.55
    BYND 1:2:1 130-145-140 call @ $1.63 sold @ $2.58 +$0.95
    ETSY 1:3:2 200-210-215 call @ $3.60 sold @ $6.15 +$2.55
    JMIA 1:3:2 35-39-41 call @$1.00 sold @ $1.50 +$0.50
    MARA 1:2:1 40-45-50 put @$1.94 sold @ $0.52 -$1.42
    PTON 1:2:1 112-115-118 call @$0.87 sold @ $1.42 +$0.55
    ROKU 1:2:1 290-300-310 put @$2.26 sold @ $0.45 -$1.81
    TLRY 1:2:1 22-25-28 call @$0.84 sold @ $1.42 +$0.58
    TSLA 1:2:1 640-650-660 put @1.41 sold @ $0.65 -$0.76

    total: up $4.68 or $468

    • Take Away
    • The wider pins seemed to work better. Wider strikes.
    • Legging out of BABA and letting the long put run turned into a nice trade.
    • Patient and waited till longer in the day to exit but probably should have waited longer.
    • Can't bitch good week.

    Happy weekend to all and a good Easter.
     
    #84     Apr 1, 2021
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  5. caroy

    caroy

    Week 12 - Update

    Following flies. All entered 4/8 exits on 4/9

    TSLA 1:2:1 690-700-710 c @ $1.13 sod @ $0.21 -$0.92
    PENN 1:2:1 102-120-118 c @ $1.85 sold @ $3.30 +$1.45
    FUBO 1:2:1 20-25-30 c @ $1.07 sold @ $3.15 +$2.08
    CHPT 1:2:1 27-30-33 c @ 1.32 sold @ $1.50 + $0.18
    QS 1:2:1 46-49-52 c @ $1.25 sold @ $0.32 -$0.93
    GME 1:2:1 190-200-210 c @ $1.13 sold @ $0.31 -$0.82
    GSX 1:2:1 20-25-30 p @ $0.65 sold at $0.92 +$0.27
    SPX 1:2:1 iron fly 4075-4100-4025 sold at 12.50 bought @ 12 +$0.50

    totals: +1.81 or profit $181

    Thoughts:
    • Can't complain with an overall profitable week.
    • Viewed the OTM plays in TSLA and GME kind of as lottery tickets. Didn't work out. Like the R/R set ups on these but probably have to accept not many will hit this far out of the money especially with some sleepy action overall.
    • Liked the wider winds paid off better. Thinking wings always $4 or wider.
    • Liking that in essence this is a non-correlated strategy. I'm only in the market one day and out the next and sitting in cash the majority of the week. Crash proof? Maybe maybe not.
    • Made some other profits this week with a couple straddles in /ES in the early morning and did a O DTE SPX iron fly this morning for a quick small profit. First time doing one of these but the lack of vol and swings made it worth trying. I liked the risk is capped with the iron fly. spx if.JPG
     
    #85     Apr 9, 2021
  6. Justrade

    Justrade

    U ever investigate buying put spreads as the market moves up instead of Straddle OFF / Straddle/Strangle back ON
    U would save a little on commission and spreads (10% extra on 1 or 2 pts can add up)
     
    #86     Apr 9, 2021
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  7. caroy

    caroy

    I haven't looked at this. So essentially buy the put spread as it gets cheaper on the way up hoping for a future collapse in price intraday? buy the put spread in the /ES
     
    #87     Apr 9, 2021
  8. .sigma

    .sigma

    Great trades man!
     
    #88     Apr 9, 2021
  9. vanv0029

    vanv0029

    I had a rather unpleasant result in my paper trading
    account trying to trade Augen expiration day method
    on Friday. I tried using his long call below the market
    and short 3 calls above. It needs to be adjusted to
    sell 2 very cheap calls above the market or else
    IB says margin is like $120k. I tried long SPX
    weekly long 4105 call, short 3, 415 calls and
    long 2, 425 calls (that were only 40 cents). I
    could have taken about $100 profit around 3:00PM.
    Instead I decided to run an errand thinking SPX
    weeklies cash settle so I would collect a lot more
    when the 415 calls expired worthless. Except
    I lost the maxim about $1200 loss because SPX
    rose from 4107 at 3:15 to 4127 close on what had
    been a quiet day. I looked and now maybe because
    of option trades, SPX seems to make a large move
    last hour each Friday. Has anyone tried to trade that?
     
    #89     Apr 10, 2021
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  10. caroy

    caroy

    Thanks for this post. I will say in Augen's Expiration day plays the straddle appeals more to me or the trading around pinning which is what I try to set up with the butterflies. You're right he explains the ratio spread quite a bit. I just don't like anything with the unlimited risk element to it. I've noticed the Friday close spike on the SPX last couple of weeks but it had also been dead as a doornail last hours of the Monday and Wednesday expiration. I've had success with doing the straddle in /ES on expiration day usually putting it on the morning or early morning and taking it off in a couple hours. A little success with the ODTE Iron Fly in SPX last week. Flies into expiration are proving to be my more consistently profitable play for the time being.
     
    #90     Apr 10, 2021
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