Wealth Lab Pro: Good of bad?

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by Dominic, May 21, 2006.

  1. jdaz

    jdaz

    Take a look at TradersStudio. www.TradersStudio.com They have just released the beta for Version 2. I've used it for about a week and it looks great. It has the power of TradeStation but also gives you the ability of testing and optimizing across a basket of securities or futures like wealth-lab. The language is similar to visual basic and it has a migration tool that makes translating easylanguage trivial. You can use multiple data streams including fundamental data from any third-party source. No need to sign up with Fidelity. I've used wealth-lab developer for years and developed many WL scripts but after using TradersStudio for just a few days I've decided to switch to it for all my system development work.
     
    #11     May 22, 2006
  2. Jdaz can you tell me the why you prefer tradestation to WL? i actually havent used TS myself..


    and also, what can C++ give u that WL or TS don't?
     
    #12     May 22, 2006
  3. jdaz

    jdaz

    Batman, I was saying I prefer TradersStudio over WL. WL is a good platform but in order to use fundamental data you have to become a Fidelity client and use WL pro. Also I find it very time consuming to translate and debug TradeStation code into WL code. Translating TradeStation code to TradersStudio is very easy. The TradersStudio language is a cross between easylanguage and visual basic. It has an easylanguage migration tool that does most of the job for you but even without it its not difficult. The portfolio and money management tools in TradersStudio simply aren't present in TradeStation.

    I hope this helps clarify things for you.
     
    #13     May 22, 2006
  4. Could you expand on some of the benefits of developing your own platform, i.e., given what TradeStation offers, why would someone spend all that development time assuming one didn't need high-frequency support? Thank you.
     
    #14     May 22, 2006
  5. exactly,

    if there is ES and wealth-lab, what can c++ etc. give that these dont?

    and can u also tell me why people love java so much when its so shit n slow? thanks
     
    #15     May 22, 2006
  6. An obvious one would be speed. For example...

    Monte Carlo.

    Analyzing on a portfolio level.

    Optimization.

    Scanner.
     
    #16     May 22, 2006
  7. how much speed do u really need, honestly?

    WB can optimise, it has monte carlo simulation add-on, portfolio analysis, and neurel networks add-on too! what is it missing? other limited execution access
     
    #17     May 23, 2006
  8. I need a lot of speed. I used WL for about a year. It is a great tool for beginer and I learned a lot using it, however it is painfully slow (Some simulations can take hours / Optimizations can take days...).
    Using C++, you can reduce the simulations to seconds and optimizations to minutes. Writing adaptive systems with interdependant securities takes few hours to simulate using C++. The computation is distributed on 3 different machines, 2 AMDs 4800, and 1 AMD FX 57.
    WL wouldn't allow me to simulate on 3 machines simultaneously.
    I can't even imagine running them in WL. It will probably take months if not years :)

    And the main important thing, using an off the shelf software your imagination is limited by it. Using C++ or C, there is no limit, you can litterally do whatever you want... Think outside the box... Way outside the box...

    But again, if you're just starting, WL/Metastock/Tradestation are great learning tools...

    Cheers,
     
    #18     May 23, 2006
  9. I would think the main argument for custom programming something would be to analyse bid/ask data as well as a FIX connection and constantly changing orders (although many exchanges now add cancellation charges if you're too hyper).

    I just don't see the argument when it comes to "normal" system development. No offense intended there :)
     
    #19     May 23, 2006

  10. StocksSniper, how long have you been programmin in c++/c and r u self-thought?

    thanks
     
    #20     May 23, 2006