We need a simple educated President.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mercor, Mar 13, 2010.

  1. Since the end of World War II, our country has had three great presidents: Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan.

    Their politics varied, but these giants stand in sharp contrast to our last three presidents, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and now Barack Obama. The first two presided over gravely flawed presidencies; the third is on his way to outright failure.

    What makes these two presidential trios so different? A recent visit to the Truman Museum and Library in Independence, Mo., made me ask what made those great presidents great.
    Truman: A fighter, not an Ivy Leaguer.

    The answer is character. The three greats were men of great character; the three recents, men of great ambition -- driven, in their different ways, by a fateful sense of entitlement.

    And you don't build character by punching your ticket at today's Ivy-League universities, then dashing straight into politics.

    The people I admire most in life aren't the golden boys (or girls), but those who've come up the hard way. Frankly, failure builds character -- in those who have the gumption to get back up on their feet and fight to succeed.

    Until the Reagan years, it was still possible to become president without elite credentials. Harry Truman had only a high-school diploma. Reagan graduated from the sort of college today's Washington insiders mock. Eisenhower was a Military Academy grad -- back when West Point was still an engineering school.

    Most important, each man tasted bitter disappointments along the way. Young Harry Truman had to return from Kansas City to work 16-hour days on his family's troubled farm. After combat service in the First World War, he co-owned a men's store -- only to face bankruptcy in the postwar recession. Barely averting that bankruptcy, he paid each debt he owed over the years.

    Eisenhower thought his career was finished when he failed to get a combat command during World War I. His peers gained medals while he trained troops Stateside. Years later, he was little more than a football coach in uniform. But he never gave up -- and worked relentlessly at his profession.

    Ronald Reagan knew what it felt like to be written off, to be regarded as a second-rater. Descending through B-movies to minor television jobs, he seemed finished. He wasn't. Reagan remade himself to serve the country he loved. And the world's better and safer for it.

    Each of these men -- all from rural or small-town backgrounds -- knew hardship, failure and what it was like to sweat for a living. Not one of them would stand a chance of being elected president today.

    Instead, we've had Clinton, Bush and Obama, with their laurel wreaths of degrees from Oxford, Yale and Harvard. Two did have challenging childhoods (who hasn't?). But once they figured out how to game the system and get into top schools, Clinton and Obama never deviated from their identical goal of becoming president.

    George W. Bush did fail in business -- but he never had to worry about how he was going to feed his family. The Bush-dynasty safety net was there for him -- Dad could always make the phone call.

    As president, Bush showed tenacity -- and far more character than Clinton or Obama -- but he, too, fit the post-modern model of gaining the White House from an inside track.

    Will we ever again have a president who didn't go to an Ivy League school, who knows what it's like to struggle -- as so many Americans struggle every day -- and who's tasted defeat, but got back in the ring with his dukes up?

    Wouldn't it be a fine thing to have another president whose first serious taste of failure didn't come in the Oval Office?

    We don't need presidents with exclusive academic credentials. We need presidents who know what it's like to work for a living. We need presidents who understand average Americans. We need presidents for whom the White House isn't just the ultimate résumé entry.

    Truman, Eisenhower and Reagan had different visions of what was right for America -- but their concern was America, not themselves.

    These profoundly different men had two other things in common: They weren't lawyers, and they had the courage to make tough decisions, from dropping the first atomic bombs to telling the chieftain of an evil empire to tear down a wall.

    Our post-modern presidents can't even decide what to do with blood-soaked terrorists. I don't think that would've been a problem for Harry, Ike or the Gipper.

  2. Frankly, failure builds character -- in those who have the gumption to get back up on their feet and fight to succeed.

    I stopped reading here. In todays world failure is treated as a flaw. Make a mistake - you're fired, demoted, put out to pasture to shuffle paper, a liability in todays world of litigation.

    The world is very very limited for those who want or are given a second chance.

    The result ---- anyone with the experience of A mistake, failure or the school of hard knocks --need not apply.

    These people are branded losers being judged by those who have done less or next to nothing.
  3. Ronald Reagan: "retaliation in which innocent civilians are killed is 'itself a terrorist act.'"
  4. Ricter


    You are right about the character part, but not in the president. The problem is the character of the American people. We have become a gambling culture, all of us hoping to get rich by moving money around, so we can quit working, and let others less fortunate than ourselves labor to serve us. It's no coincidence that stock trading, real estate flipping, casinos, lotteries, online gaming, and TV poker have become so commonly practiced and revered.

    A simply educated president is useless if no one follows him or her. And it's certain no one is going to follow one who plans to stand up to the big winners of all those games--they won't beat him down, they won't have to. He just won't have the money to run in the first place.
  5. Not to mention Americans who move to Canada and point this out. :confused:
  6. Ricter


    Momo's sole expertise is re jewish racial purity. On anything else he's all snark and sniping. I stopped listening to him because I don't care about jewish racial purity.

    Anyway, for the one to zero people who care, as far as expats go he's probably more Canadian than I am. He's probably sworn his oath to the queen, which I have not, and he probably has no business in the US or elsewhere, which I do.

    I bought a condo in Calgary, and do most of my work there, because it gives me the best access to the sweetest part of the Rocky Mountains, "the marrow of the world", during my free time. In fact, I'm headed up into them thar hills today.

    Query him on his US military service, I'd be happy to compare epenis size on that topic too.
  7. It's no coincidence that stock trading, real estate flipping, casinos, lotteries, online gaming, and TV poker have become so commonly practiced and revered.

    There is no money in conventional business. Everything conventional, even corporate, you are nothing more than a cash churner. What's the point?

  8. Reagan as a great president. Lol. Reagan tripled the national debt to accelerate something that was going to happen anyway, namely the dissolution of the soviet union. He did all of this while not giving a shit about domestic issues.

    Clinton was a wonderful president if you are not a prude and willing to overlook his indiscretions. While I would not want to have Caligula in the white house(namely orgies and total hedonism), if a president has affairs and keeps it down low I don't care.

    Ike is my favorite all time preident.

    Truman was a simpleton who was broken by the korean war. The only reason he was able to be "tough" on stalin is because USA got the nuke first (not truman's accomplishment, but FDR's and people at LOS Alamos+Manhattan project) and because USA was largely unscathed by WWII while soviet union was bombed out and bled dry. NATO and Marshall Plan are great achievements but I doubt Truman came up with them by himself.

    Bush II was a complete degenerate and the only reason he ever achieved anything was because of his hard working father and his connections. W is a great example of why aristocracy should not be promoted in the USA.

    Clinton is just fine by me for a model of modern USA president. Splendid academic credentials, ability to relate to the common man, great oratorical skill, ability to be moderate on issues (barack has a lot to learn from slick willie)
  9. Who was the second President to be impeached by the House of Representatives?
    #10     Mar 14, 2010