We are the 1%; We stand with the 99%

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Grandluxe, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. N54_Fan

    N54_Fan

    Sounds about right. 30 years ago a millionare meant something. Now a days it isn't shit. You need at least 10-15 million in my mind to be wealthy. Today 1 million is like a $100K 20 years ago. As our $ is devalued and we have hyper inflation because of Uncle Ben we will all be millionares...and it will mean even less.
     
    #51     Oct 13, 2011
  2. S2007S

    S2007S


    Exactly, $1 million sounds like a lot, but in reality its not enough to sit back on and retire with......even if you buy a modest house in a modest neighborhood the up keep along will set you back tens of thousands of dollars a year. With Inflation running rampant money will not buy you much today.
     
    #52     Oct 13, 2011
  3. I can agree with the overall jist of it, but no way on earth is $1million equal to $100k 20 years ago. Maybe you are only 20 years old, so 20 years ago seems like a "lifetime" but prices aren't so out of control yet that I would go that far.

    If you said 1970, I'd go with that.
     
    #53     Oct 14, 2011
  4. These kids are the real 1%. Those bums belong to the 99%.

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    #54     Oct 14, 2011
  5. N54_Fan

    N54_Fan

    Definitely not 20 here....maybe a BIT of exaggeration,...but you get the point.
     
    #55     Oct 14, 2011
  6. US companies are evading taxes by opening/operating an office in Ireland.
    But US citizen must pay income tax to US Gov if he is working in Ireland.

    Insider trading is legal to US Congress members.
    And insider trading is illegal to US Citizens.

    How long this hypocrisy will continue?
     
    #56     Oct 14, 2011
  7. This is an ignorant statement. Only a small percentage of millionaire households use tax avoidance strategies to be effected by the Buffet rule.

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/13/news/economy/buffett_rule/

    However, with that said, people will always try to avoid or evade taxes. Tax avoidance and evasion is as common in middle class households as it is in millionaire households. You cant tell me that every household in America has been honest on their tax forms or that by re-writing the tax code will fix that...the reality is is everyone is going to take advantage of the tax code anyway possible no matter who they are. You can say or do what you want, but it wont stop either tax avoidance or evasion.
     
    #57     Oct 14, 2011
  8. well I am moved by these guys. Maybe once they give a significant amount of their wealth to the rest of us struggling we could vote for them for congress and have a real representation.

    Indeed a good moral action but the problem of wealth in this country is just a little bit more complex. They offer a good start.
     
    #58     Oct 14, 2011
  9. the problem of wealth??? May God strike me dead with it!!!
     
    #59     Oct 14, 2011
  10. sle

    sle

    by what metric? By inflation adjustment, you get like like 1 million today ~= 600k 20 years ago, or if you use "shadow" inflation of 5% (which i think it's bullshit btw) you get 1 million ~= 380k. If you look by income percentile adjustment, 1 million today is like 790k 20 years ago. By Manhattan real estate prices, 1mm today is about 350k 20 years ago. I just can't get to a 100k
     
    #60     Oct 14, 2011