‘We are sorry’: Hillsong apologises for Brian Houston conduct breach

studentofthemarkets · Mar 30, 2022

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‘The Lord is calling us to move’: Hillsong US pastors cut church ties
By Ruth Graham March 30, 2022 https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...-pastors-cut-church-ties-20220330-p5a9bh.html

Dallas: Terry Crist, a fifth-generation pastor in Phoenix, joined the global megachurch Hillsong in part because of what he describes as its distinctly joyful approach to church life – Hillsong was an institution where leaders seemed “light and free”, offering an experience that attracted tens of thousands of people around the world.

Starting in Phoenix, Crist eventually brought six churches in two states into the Hillsong fold. Last week, he took them out.

“We cannot continue in our global family, as much as we love it,” Crist told his congregation in an emotional sermon on Sunday, citing, among other reasons, the recent resignation of Hillsong’s global leader under a haze of scandal. “I am heartbroken.”

Terry and Judith Crist, pastors at Hillsong Phoenix, brought six churches in two US states into the Hillsong franchise, but this week decided to take his congregations elsewhere. Credit:Hillsong.com

In the last two weeks, Hillsong has lost nine of its 16 American church campuses, a swift and stunning decline for one of the world’s largest and most influential evangelical churches.

Just a few years ago, Hillsong was the leading edge of cool Christianity, a quickly expanding network that appealed to young people and city dwellers with energetic, stylish preachers and an upbeat atmosphere. Hillsong translated the charismatic church experience, which emphasises miracles and personal encounters with the Holy Spirit, for a hip, upscale audience.

Justin Bieber and NBA star Kevin Durant attended services; one of the church’s worship bands won a Grammy Award and the church produced soaring anthems that became staples in smaller churches that imitated its sounds, style, and Instagram-friendly aesthetic.

Hillsong congregants attend a Christmas show in New York City in 2017. The church has sought to attract young Christians in big cities.Credit:Jessica Lehrman/The New York Times

Now, Hillsong’s US presence is in collapse. Its remaining US locations are in the north-east and in California, meaning Hillsong no longer has a major presence between the coasts.

The departures are partly the fallout from a series of crises — most recently the sudden resignation of its charismatic founder — that have left the church with a tarnished reputation and instability that pastors say they found increasingly difficult to endure.

“I can’t think of a church in the English-speaking Western world with as broad a global reach as Hillsong,” said Ed Stetzer, executive director of the Wheaton College Billy Graham Centre in Illinois. The current upheaval at the church “is a very big deal and will have ramifications not just for Hillsong, but for contemporary evangelism around the world,” he said.

The church was already grappling with in-house tensions and a damaged brand when its Australian founder and global leader, Brian Houston, resigned on March 23 after an internal investigation found that he behaved inappropriately towards two women. Houston had stepped away from all ministry duties in January, explaining that he needed to concentrate on fighting a criminal charge of concealing child sexual abuse committed by his late father, who was also a pastor.

Brian Houston, senior pastor of the global megachurch Hillsong in New York in 2014. Houston was charged by the Australian police with concealing child sexual abuse carried out by his father in the 1970s. He has denied the allegations. Credit:Victor J. Blue/The New York Times

The church’s investigation found that Houston sent “inappropriate text messages” to one staff member, and that several years later he spent time alone in a hotel room with a woman who attended the church’s annual conference in Sydney. In a statement to The New York Times, the press office for the church said there have been no other complaints about Houston’s behaviour.

The church has blamed medication and alcohol for Houston’s actions. Houston has not publicly commented on his resignation. He could not be immediately reached for comment.

Phil Dooley, the church’s interim global leader, responded to some questions in an email through the church press office. In the email, Dooley said Houston’s resignation came as “a tremendous surprise to many members of our community”. The church press office did not respond to questions about whether Houston would receive a severance package or any future financial compensation from the church. The press office also declined to say whether Houston’s wife, Bobbie, whose title was also global senior pastor, remained employed by the church.

A day after Houston’s resignation, the streaming service Discovery+ released a three-part documentary, Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed. The documentary depicts the megachurch as a toxic institution obsessed with image, control and growth at all costs. It features interviews with critics, former employees and members, and a woman who has said she had a months-long affair with Carl Lentz, at the time the celebrity lead pastor of Hillsong’s US East Coast branches. The press office for the church said in an emailed statement that the documentary’s portrait of Hillsong was “almost unrecognisable” to the church community.

Pastor Sam Collier preaches at Hillsong Atlanta, US, for the last time on Sunday, before leaving the denomination to form his own congregation.Credit:Alyssa Pointer/The New York Times

Dooley, the interim leader, said in an email to the Times through the church press office that he has been “talking with members of our team around the world in what seems like a nonstop conversation” since the revelations of Houston’s behaviour. He described the crisis as a challenging and emotional time for both members and leaders. “This difficult season has sparked conversations that we should have been having as a church for a very long time,” he said. He said the church was reviewing its policies and procedures to “provide both health and accountability for leaders.”

Hillsong exercises some control over the financial operations of each member church, though congregations set their own budgets. Churches also pass on 5 per cent of the contributions they receive to the global church. In return, they receive organisational and teaching resources, and what was once a straightforwardly valuable association with one of the most recognisable evangelical churches in the world.

For some leaders of Hillsong branches, the baggage has become too burdensome to be worth the benefits of affiliation.

Last week, the lead pastor of Hillsong Atlanta, Sam Collier, emailed his congregation to inform them that he was withdrawing his church from Hillsong after “consistent media attacks, slander, and accusations” against Hillsong — some of which, he acknowledged, were true.

“All the challenges and the speculation and the scandal and the articles and all of the above, it got to a point where the people in our church just did not want to deal with it anymore,” Collier said in an interview. His hiring as Hillsong’s first black lead pastor was announced about a week before the news of Lentz’s misconduct became public in 2020, meaning his entire tenure at the church has been clouded by scandal emanating from Hillsong entities far from Atlanta.

Worshippers at the last Hillsong service in Atlanta on Sunday.Credit:Alyssa Pointer/The New York Times

Sunday’s service was the last for Hillsong Atlanta.

“We believe the Lord is calling us to move into the next season,” Collier told the congregation.

Collier is launching a new church on Easter Sunday, and expects much of his Hillsong followers to migrate there. The press office for Hillsong said there were no plans to reestablish Hillsong Atlanta.

Another branch, Hillsong Kansas City, which launched in 2019, quietly separated from Hillsong about two weeks ago and relaunched as Kingdom City Church. The press office for the global church said the two parties “made a mutual decision to separate” before Houston’s departure. A person who answered the phone at Kingdom City last week said the church had no comment.

Hillsong’s website says 150,000 people attend services weekly in 30 countries, but that estimate was taken before the pandemic. The press office said an accurate attendance count is not possible because of pandemic restrictions in some countries, and emphasised the church’s longtime focus, heightened during the pandemic, on online participation.

Houston and his wife, Bobbie, are towering figures in Australia. The church grew for decades as part of the Australian branch of the Assemblies of God, a Pentecostal denomination. The church offered original music with high production values — sometimes performed in actual concert venues. Houston once instructed pastors in Australia that a Hillsong sermon “leaves people feeling better about themselves than when they came in.”

Pentecostalism, a charismatic movement, often features practices like speaking in tongues and faith healing. Hillsong took a more accessible approach. Always attuned to mass appeal, the church accentuated personal encounters with God, often through music. Hillsong became its own denomination in 2018.

In 2020, the church’s relationship with money, sex and celebrity came under renewed scrutiny when Houston fired Lentz for “leadership issues and breaches of trust, plus a recent revelation of moral failures”. Lentz, a one-time mentor of Bieber and a celebrity in his own right, confessed that he had been unfaithful to his wife and withdrew from public life.

In his sermon on Sunday, Crist called for an internal investigation into Hillsong’s global board, to make the findings of that investigation public, and to purge any board members “who have protected the institution and not the people”.

For Crist, leaving Hillsong was the culmination of several years of doubts about the institution. He objected a few years ago, he said, when a global church restructuring disbanded his board of local leaders and put him directly under the authority of the Australia-based global board. And he bristled when he and other lead pastors were asked to sign non-compete and non-disparagement agreements after the scandal in the East Coast branches. He never signed.

The church press office described the agreements as standard elements of their general contracts with church leaders.

“This decision wasn’t arrived at lightly, and it was made calculating the significant cost,” Crist said, mentioning the possibility for disillusionment and pain. But “anyone who has been victimised in our church needs to be seen and heard.”

Crist expects to begin holding services on June 1 under a new name to be determined.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
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The Bible directs believers to test everything and carefully evaluate the actions of church leaders. If a believer isn't careful in who they follow, they may be led by false teachers that appear to be sheep, but are actually wolves in sheep's clothing.

As Christians, we are commanded against following teachers blindly but are told rather to “test everything; hold on to the good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). The Apostle Peter warns us in 2 Peter 2:1-3 that there will be false teachers in our day just as there were false teachers in his day. Among their false teachings is a denial of the sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross to take away sin, which is a common theme among cultists today. Another characteristic of false teachers is the greed which motivates them in everything they do. Paul offers a similar warning to the Ephesian elders in Acts 20:29-31, calling the false teachers “savage wolves” who mercilessly attempt to destroy the faith of the sheep and draw them away from the Shepherd. Paul warned the church continually, pleading with them night and day to be on their guard against such deceivers.

From these passages, we see clearly that we are to distinguish between true and false teachers. How then are we to do that? First, as Paul instructs the Ephesians, we are to “no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming” (Ephesians 4:14). Rather, we are to “become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ” and we do this by “the knowledge of the Son of God” (v. 13). The knowledge of Christ can only be obtained through the Word of God, and it is by that Word that we distinguish between the true and the false.

In Matthew 7:15-20, Jesus offers some critical advice in discerning who is a false prophet: “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruits you will recognize them.” Plainly stated, is the teacher’s life marked by a progressive conformity to the likeness of Christ? Is the teacher bearing the fruits of the Spirit? Just as only good trees produce good fruit, so do only true teachers of Christ display the fruit of the Spirit—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23), whereas false prophets and teachers display the acts of their sinful natures (Galatians 5:19-21). By these fruits, we recognize true and false teachers.

Second, does the teaching that is being presented conform to the message as proclaimed by the early church and the apostles? As Paul writes to the church in Galatia, “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” These are harsh words indeed that Paul has for the false teachers, but eternal condemnation is what they store up for themselves until the day of God’s wrath (Romans 2:5-6).

The Apostle John tells us in his first epistle (1 John 4:1-6) how we are to discern which spirits are from God. “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.”

It is of utmost importance that Christians are well grounded in the Scriptures so that they are able to discern which teachers speak from God and which are false in their proclamation. Only then can we reject what is false and “hold on to the good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
https://www.gotquestions.org/judge-teachings-leaders.html

themickey · Mar 30, 2022

studentofthemarkets said:
The Bible directs believers to test everything and carefully evaluate the actions of church leaders. If a believer isn't careful in who they follow, they may be led by false teachers that appear to be sheep, but are actually wolves in sheep's clothing.

As Christians, we are commanded against following teachers blindly but are told rather to “test everything; hold on to the good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). The Apostle Peter warns us in 2 Peter 2:1-3 that there will be false teachers in our day just as there were false teachers in his day. Among their false teachings is a denial of the sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross to take away sin, which is a common theme among cultists today. Another characteristic of false teachers is the greed which motivates them in everything they do. Paul offers a similar warning to the Ephesian elders in Acts 20:29-31, calling the false teachers “savage wolves” who mercilessly attempt to destroy the faith of the sheep and draw them away from the Shepherd. Paul warned the church continually, pleading with them night and day to be on their guard against such deceivers.

From these passages, we see clearly that we are to distinguish between true and false teachers. How then are we to do that? First, as Paul instructs the Ephesians, we are to “no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming” (Ephesians 4:14). Rather, we are to “become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ” and we do this by “the knowledge of the Son of God” (v. 13). The knowledge of Christ can only be obtained through the Word of God, and it is by that Word that we distinguish between the true and the false.

In Matthew 7:15-20, Jesus offers some critical advice in discerning who is a false prophet: “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruits you will recognize them.” Plainly stated, is the teacher’s life marked by a progressive conformity to the likeness of Christ? Is the teacher bearing the fruits of the Spirit? Just as only good trees produce good fruit, so do only true teachers of Christ display the fruit of the Spirit—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23), whereas false prophets and teachers display the acts of their sinful natures (Galatians 5:19-21). By these fruits, we recognize true and false teachers.

Second, does the teaching that is being presented conform to the message as proclaimed by the early church and the apostles? As Paul writes to the church in Galatia, “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” These are harsh words indeed that Paul has for the false teachers, but eternal condemnation is what they store up for themselves until the day of God’s wrath (Romans 2:5-6).

The Apostle John tells us in his first epistle (1 John 4:1-6) how we are to discern which spirits are from God. “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.”

It is of utmost importance that Christians are well grounded in the Scriptures so that they are able to discern which teachers speak from God and which are false in their proclamation. Only then can we reject what is false and “hold on to the good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
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All so hindsight, heard these arguments from christians hundreds of times, its like Trump and RINO's (which would have sourced that stupid idea from the evangelicals).
Get this into your heads! Humans are fallible, even the best come a cropper.
You and your friends and your church will all do stupid things, I will too.

Every time a church pastor comes undone, all the other christians say, "he was a CINO", (Christian in name only, a professing christian, not genuine).

The fact is, christianity IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE UP TO.!!!
We cannot attain the ideals, we strive and we fail.

So imperfect humans are saved into heaven because they mumble "I accept jesus"???
Are CINO's saved?

themickey · Mar 30, 2022

This heaven lark makes for a good bed time story, that's all it's good for.

studentofthemarkets · Mar 31, 2022

themickey said:
Get this into your heads! Humans are fallible, even the best come a cropper.
You and your friends and your church will all do stupid things, I will too.
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themickey said:
The fact is, christianity IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE UP TO.!!!
We cannot attain the ideals, we strive and we fail.
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Amen! Well said! We strive and we fail. Believers have realized the peace that comes through spending time thinking and considering how Jesus satisfied the wrath of God for us. Do we feel ashamed, especially when we consider God's righteous standards we don't meet? Jesus was put to shame before Pontus Pilate, wrongly accused and mocked. Because He bore my shame, I will not be ashamed when I enter eternity. God's justice demands payment yet when He looks upon the anguish of His soul on the cross, His wrath will be appeased towards me. He bore wounds from the scourging and wounds from those who beat him and wounds from the cross, so that I would not come under His judgment.

As a result of the anguish of His soul, He shall see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge [of what He has accomplished] the Righteous One, My Servant, shall justify the many [making them righteous—upright before God, in right standing with Him], For He shall bear [the responsibility for] their sins.
Isaiah 53:11 Amplified Bible (Note: This was written hundreds of years before Jesus was born.)

When someone comes into such a relationship with God, they really love God in return. And the best way to show God their love is to do the things He likes. We still sin, but the desire of a Christian should be to want to live according to God's standards.

themickey said:
So imperfect humans are saved into heaven because they mumble "I accept jesus"???
Are CINO's saved?
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I haven't seen anywhere in the Bible a promise given that by mumbling "I accept Jesus" that they are born again. The way described in the Bible uses words like repentance, reconciliation, faith in Jesus as a Substitute, trust in His blood to cleanse from sin, a genuine recognition of Jesus as Lord and Savior.

A Christian needs to be careful who they listen to for spiritual guidance. The Biblical standard is high:

Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 1 Tim 3:2,3 NIV

Overnight · Mar 31, 2022

studentofthemarkets said:
Amen! Well said! We strive and we fail. Believers have realized the peace that comes through spending time thinking and considering how Jesus satisfied the wrath of God for us. Do we feel ashamed, especially when we consider God's righteous standards we don't meet? Jesus was put to shame before Pontus Pilate, wrongly accused and mocked. Because He bore my shame, I will not be ashamed when I enter eternity. God's justice demands payment yet when He looks upon the anguish of His soul on the cross, His wrath will be appeased towards me. He bore wounds from the scourging and wounds from those who beat him and wounds from the cross, so that I would not come under His judgment.

As a result of the anguish of His soul, He shall see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge [of what He has accomplished] the Righteous One, My Servant, shall justify the many [making them righteous—upright before God, in right standing with Him], For He shall bear [the responsibility for] their sins.
Isaiah 53:11 Amplified Bible (Note: This was written hundreds of years before Jesus was born.)

When someone comes into such a relationship with God, they really love God in return. And the best way to show God their love is to do the things He likes. We still sin, but the desire of a Christian should be to want to live according to God's standards.

I haven't seen anywhere in the Bible a promise given that by mumbling "I accept Jesus" that they are born again. The way described in the Bible uses words like repentance, reconciliation, faith in Jesus as a Substitute, trust in His blood to cleanse from sin, a genuine recognition of Jesus as Lord and Savior.

A Christian needs to be careful who they listen to for spiritual guidance. The Biblical standard is high:

Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 1 Tim 3:2,3 NIV
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I've got something that will blow your mind and your belief system out of the water, if I ever get to it.

Your belief in God is fucked, dude.

themickey · Mar 31, 2022

studentofthemarkets said:
When someone comes into such a relationship with God, they really love God in return.....
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Kind of like having a relationship and loving an imagination.

studentofthemarkets said:
And the best way to show God their love is to do the things He likes.
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How do we know what he likes? We can only imagine what he likes.

studentofthemarkets said:
We still sin, but the desire of a Christian should be to want to live according to God's standards.
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You mean the standards of man / King James?

You say the bible is God's word, I say the bible is an account written by humans who believe they are inspired by God. But belief is not truth.

murray t turtle · Mar 31, 2022

themickey said:
All so hindsight, heard these arguments from Christians hundreds of times, its like Trump and RINO's (which would have sourced that stupid idea from the evangelicals).
Get this into your heads! Humans are fallible, even the best come a cropper.
You and your friends and your church will all do stupid things, I will too.

Every time a church pastor comes undone, all the other christians say, "he was a CINO", (Christian in name only, a professing christian, not genuine).

The fact is, christianity IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE UP TO.!!!
We cannot attain the ideals, we strive and we fail.

So imperfect humans are saved into heaven because they mumble "I accept Jesus"???
Are CINO's saved?
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Good post+ good points.
No where in the Bible does does mumbling the name of Jesus or Lord change anything, unless you actually mean it.
Looking @ Samson all his life most would say, no way would that judge ever go to heaven, but he is in Hebrew hall of fame[Hebrews , heavenly chapter 11]

Actually , you are right, ''Christianity is impossible to live''.
BUT with God all things are possible. Prayer helps also.
Most people don't throw away their $100 bills because some are fake, do you?? I don't.
IN THE MIGHTY name of Jesus; All Things Are Possible.[Katie Nichole ,in Jesus name Video]...................................................................................................................

themickey · Mar 31, 2022

murray t turtle said:
BUT with God all things are possible. Prayer helps also....................................................................................................
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No it's not, just another christian myth belief of which there are countless.

Think about it, in lala land christianity all things are possible, preposterous dreams, exagerations, wishful thinking, stretching imagination, nonsense, old wives tales, bedtime stories nursery rhymes, stories to tickle the ears and entertain.
Call it belief, faith, trust, hope, anything to justify bs as truth.

Our feet are on the ground while christians brain are in the clouds.

studentofthemarkets · Mar 31, 2022

themickey said:
Kind of like having a relationship and loving an imagination.
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Nope. It is a real relationship. "We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. "(1Jn1:3)

themickey said:
How do we know what he likes? We can only imagine what he likes.
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We have to find it out and since the Bible is what God gave us to get to know Him, we use the Bible to determine what God likes. "Find out what pleases the Lord." Eph 5:10

themickey said:
You mean the standards of man / King James?You say the bible is God's word, I say the bible is an account written by humans who believe they are inspired by God. But belief is not truth.
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The proof is in the prophesies. And other things.

I KNOW it is God's Word BECAUSE the BIBLE says so:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16

So, you will say that is circular reasoning. But it's not. It is the most logical and reasonable thing to believe and it is the truth, whether or not someone believes it. How do I know? Lots of reasons. One of them is that everything fits together. It describes the whys of suffering and the purpose we were created for (fellowship with God). It describes good and evil in terms that not only make sense, but can easily be seen for the truth of their existence. It describes people's attempt to be their own master yet people are like lost sheep without a shepherd, going their own way, because they lack God as their Shepherd. It describes historical events accurately as well as geographical locations when describing the ways that God intervened in the lives of our ancestors. There is no other book comparable to the Bible, spanning such a long period of time over which it was written, and so many different authors. I'm sure there are many other reasons. These were just the ones that came to mind as I was writing this.

But if anyone really wants to know if the Bible is from God, then they should read the Bible with a heart that desires to do what the God of the Bible wants them to do (which is mainly to be reconciled through Jesus.)

If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether My teaching is from God or whether I speak on My own. John 7:17

studentofthemarkets · Mar 31, 2022

Overnight said:
I've got something that will blow your mind and your belief system out of the water, if I ever get to it.
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What?!!