We Are No Longer a Nation of Laws

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, Dec 22, 2009.

  1. Why is it really any different if a government panel makes decisions on health care of the elderly, or if a private insurance company does so based on profitability?

    Is a death sentence from an insurance company somehow morally superior to the same by a group of bureaucrats?
     
    #11     Dec 24, 2009
  2. jem

    jem

    there is no difference to a communist.
     
    #12     Dec 24, 2009
  3. So to a non communist, what is the difference?



     
    #13     Dec 24, 2009
  4. Illum

    Illum

    Grandma won't be getting a titanium hip, end of story. This has to happen, whatever your party, we can't afford it. Also a doctor coming in for 5 mins asking "how are you doing" leaving and charging 500.... also, not gonna happen anymore. These panels aren't going to kill you, but if you want a gold plated knee and your 97 you gotta pay cash. The entitlements are breaking us.

    Whatever you think of President Obama, when he says if we don't fix this mess we are in for a world of hurt, believe it.

    Btw, I'm against all of this, and think medicare and medicaid is the reason health care costs are rocketing. It free cheese abused, and those not on the dole are the ones paying though the nose. So I'd like the whole thing scrapped, and doctors would have to get real. But this part of bill, I'm fine with, the rest of it.... not really.
     
    #14     Dec 24, 2009

  5. Yes.....absolutely.
     
    #15     Dec 24, 2009
  6. Go ahead, make an argument for the moral superiority of an insurance company's death panel...

     
    #16     Dec 24, 2009
  7. loik

    loik

    Yes, because government is based on coercion!
     
    #17     Dec 25, 2009
  8. So you are coerced to vote for your government?

    :confused:

     
    #18     Dec 25, 2009
  9. I find it fitting that Scripture, when speaking of the kingdoms / governments of men, uses beasts as allegory.

    Indeed, government is like a beast. It is at its best when it is like a beast of burden, serving its master, the citizen. But when the beast breaks its chains of servitude, it becomes like a wild and ravenous animal, turning on its master.

    Our government should always be chained to the stakes of the Constitution.

    Medical insurance should be treated for what it is, a contract. A mutual contract between two parties, entered into by free choice. Government should be, via the courts, the arbiter of any contractual dispute between the parties. If the beast breaks its chains and now compells its former master by coersion of force and penalty, to enter into a contract, who shall be the arbiter ?

    Shall the coercing force be the arbiter ? No thanks, keep the "change".
     
    #19     Dec 26, 2009
  10. Our contract as voters is with the government.

    You don't like what the government does? Then change it.

    You think something the government does is unconstitutional? Sue them.

    You don't like the way the majority votes for something you don't like?

    Leave America...

    p.s. You still haven't shown how insurance companies, driven by greed are morally superior to government.

    Unless you can find some quote from your Bible that says greed is good and leads to the kingdom of heaven.

     
    #20     Dec 26, 2009