WCRX Warner Chilcott Special Dividend

Discussion in 'Options' started by tradingjournals, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. spindr0

    spindr0

    Next thing you know you'll be trying to tell me that dividends aren't FREE money !!!

    :)
     
    #11     Aug 29, 2010
  2. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    is the expected fall really the whole 8.5$?

    i mean, is the us tax on such special dividends = 0 for investment banks and traders.

    Cause if not ie. if there's a 20% tax for example, you would expect the stock to drop only by 0.8*8.50 = 6.80$.
     
    #12     Aug 29, 2010
  3. spindr0

    spindr0

     
    #13     Aug 30, 2010
  4. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    well, if the dividend is just a regular dividend every thing is clear, and it will drop by +/- 8.50$.

    i don't know about us tax laws.
    i know that here in europe, for example in germany there is a special tax for this kind of corporate action.
    so the stock is not dropping the whole dividend amount, since holders only get part of dividend, and rest goes to taxes (ie. 20%).

    so the price after the pay out does reflect this. (which is logical due to no free lunch).

    I reckon (judging from your response) there is no such special tax in the us.
     
    #14     Aug 30, 2010
  5. spindr0

    spindr0

    Yes, it is a taxable event in the US and recipients will donate whatever bracket they're in but that's a separate issue from the corporate action which is simply a special cash dividend of $8.50 per share. On the ex date, the stock will drop $8.50 and the strike prices will be reduced by the same regardless of one's tax rate. There's certainly nothing special about more txes :)
     
    #15     Aug 30, 2010
  6. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    Alright,
    but there might be a tiny up-bias after the payout, as many indivuals may prefer selling before the ex date and buying back right afterwards in order to avoid being taxed the dividend.
     
    #16     Aug 30, 2010
  7. spindr0

    spindr0

    And perhaps there's selling pressure as all who bot the stock for the dividend see that rise and lock in some gain?

    Honestly, I don't know what historical statistical bias there is after a split or special dividend but my assumption is that the quality of earnings orsubsequent news would be the driving force.
     
    #17     Aug 30, 2010
  8. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    my words.

    depends on how many buy to flip in anticipation of a smaller than 8.50$ decline...
    we will see.
    i'll let you know wether i'm taking a position in there (still quite some time to go).

    cheers
     
    #18     Aug 30, 2010