just in case i do get this. you are discussing forty minutes after having watched five? and some guy here is even dismissing it without any need to watch it, because it was me who posted the link? quite convincing arguments. i for myself find some positions of the sceptic's side quite interesting - and suprising like this french scientist who converted to the sceptics. and i find it utterly stupid to dismiss content without even spending any time on it. so no matter how much you shout out - you disqualified yourself. which is a fine thing for me in this debate, since i do not have to do it. back to school boys. this matter is of importance and beyond your intellectual and communicational abilities.
could not agree more. the problem with these "heated" topics is, that there is hardly any source left, that provides and objective stance. so one has to dig in the mud of propaganda. but if i compare the liberal and the conservative obvious propaganda clips, and i would say somehow the provided link qualifies for one, then i am left wiht the feeling that the comparison with the tobacco guys is way stronger than the gore bashing due to his cerosine consumption. plus one must not forget that behind most "lefties" stands conviction and comparably little material interest and i take it as given that for the reds it is the opposite.
no. but america is an essential part and the per head share in energy consumption and waste production is undisputable. you cannot seriously dismiss facts by overstretching.
this statements ignores that on many fronts the US claim global leadership. entitling them for projects like invading iraq for at best vague reasons. and ignoring that it WAS the people around bush who avoided the US share in kyoto. this makes it a little too easy for you, guys. very obvious lack of responsibility. highly contrasting the conservative "honest and strong" approach to things. sounds more like taking every possible advantage while not be willing to take true responsibility. it does not take "propaganda" to see that oil and weapon interests are linked to the conduct of red policy making. wait a minute, it might take a little fantasy ... or, honesty?
have to come back to you. you are a weak debater and a weak thinker. not really exciting nor inspiring to exchange posts with you.