Saw a link today about this "special"... http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-fl965ut-...0-quad-core-2-66-ghz/q/loc/101/213830830.html It doesn't even include a video card. Dell Precision T3500 (outlet) has nearly identical rig.. with video card and faster CPU for $799. How different are the machines? Well, they both have: x58 mobo 2, x16 slots 2, x8 slots 2, PCI slots The Z400 has Xeon W3520 CPU, the T3500 has W3530 CPU Both mobos are likely made by Foxconn... could be the mobos are identical (??) FWIW...