Wall Street Rule for the #MeToo Era: Avoid Women at All Cost

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by bone, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    Righto, I would enjoy discussing this further, but we'll have to take this tangent to a different section for that. Wall St. News section is not the place. If you start the thread, I'll jump in. Cheerio!
     
    #11     Dec 4, 2018
  2. Nah, I'm good.
     
    #12     Dec 4, 2018
  3. Here's an on-topic tweet by Dalio:

     
    #13     Dec 4, 2018
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  4. bone

    bone

    Talk about the law of unintended consequences...

    #MeToo started out as a very good thing for our society; then, the idea to believe all women and assume guilt for all men (until proven innocent) in a social media feeding frenzy without accountability leads to: men shutting women out of their lives. Men going their own way. Then we had the Kavanaugh hearings. And as a consequence men are afraid to mentor women or interact with women. So instead of helping women succeed in male oriented work environments it's had a very chilling effect. Men, justifiably anxious about liability and false allegations, are segregating themselves away from women.

    Twitter will get you fired. Facebook will get you fired. A woman coworker saying something unsubstantiated about you could very well get you fired (she will certainly be given every benefit of the doubt and you will in effect be guilty until proven innocent) - quite possibly kill your career or at the very least 'poison the well' at your workplace.

    Dangerous times indeed.
     
    #14     Dec 4, 2018
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  5. JSOP

    JSOP

    #MeToo never started as a good thing. I disagree with that statement right away. It was a gender-biased, possibly politically motivated mud-slinging witch hunt that not only didn't yield any positive results for the real victims but now has made already challenging workplace more confusing and difficult for both men and women and ultimately results in loss in productivity for the economy as a whole. It was bad, bad and bad.

    For the victims, real victims, did this #MeToo resulted into more clearer and unambiguous guidelines in the future so everybody would know how to behave? No. Did it result in better support infrastructure and compensatory system? No. Did it result in better handling of it in a judiciary or criminal system to deter potential harasser in the future? No. All the victims are still left to deal with the emotional trauma, re-opened again thanks to the all-public social media alone, ashamed and powerless. But for the majority of men who are just there to work, what does this mean? More confusion, more guesswork, more trouble, all unnecessary, all the more annoying just like these Wall Street "rules" that at the end achieves nothing but destroying the healthy and positive workplace atmosphere that's supposed to be there and now everybody is all tense and nervous for something nobody still don't have very clear ideas about but can be guilty of in a whim.
     
    #15     Dec 5, 2018
  6. d08

    d08

    Read the same article. It's interesting how this backfired. People assume you can just get what you want by demanding and threatening but in reality, the dynamics are very different.

    This is apparently exactly the same in IT circles now, being in a room with a female without a 3rd party can end very badly. There is also apparently targeting, competitors and other interests plant women to have an opportunity to sue someone in leadership. Sex weaponized in the most direct sense. Deranged times.
     
    #16     Dec 5, 2018
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  7. carrer

    carrer

    Agreed that this could be weaponized. A company could pay a decent amount of money to a woman who will then accuse the most talented man working for a competitor.

    Man lost his job, competitor lost their talented man.
     
    #17     Dec 5, 2018
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  8. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Unfortunately, not.
    This is from the Wikipedia page on John Guica:
    "Aftermath of Conviction Reversal
    Russo's Confession
    On March 22, 2018, Antonio Russo confessed to killing Mark Fisher [48]. Russo detailed the killing to detectives, in a DD5 that was passed along to Giuca's attorney Mark Bederow. Russo told detectives that he killed Fisher after he and Fisher left Giuca’s home [49]. Russo goes on to state in the DD5 that the “gun was his” [50].

    Subsequent Bail Hearings 2018
    On February 20th [51] , June 28th [52], and September 6th, 2018 Giuca was consistently denied bail despite having his conviction overturned. [53]

    Giuca remains incarcerated at Riker's Island until his hearing in February, 2019."

    That should be a major habeas suit right there....
     
    #18     Dec 5, 2018
  9. Ah yes, the system at work. Let's give more emotional, irrational people control over this process. Nothing can go wrong.

    Fucking brutal. That's why you have to go for the jugular every time.
     
    #19     Dec 5, 2018
  10. Simples

    Simples

    Business and in some board rooms, where Men are Men, it's very easy to spot the culture, behaviours, blindspots and rude dominating and controlling behaviour, because all us other men has to endure your BS and lying as well.

    So #metoo is not really about women, but about bad behaviour also having bad effects on work culture and employee morale. We've seen this shitstorm of psychopathy form from 2007. #metoo is long overdue, but totally misundersood by women AND men.

    'nuff said & fuck your own testosterone for a change. You WILL get yours in the end!
    Your own fault for failing to listen and asking. Very simple, but you failed.
     
    #20     Dec 5, 2018
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