Wall St Jo: Student-Loan Debt Tops $1 Trillion

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by DollarBondsCL, Mar 31, 2012.

  1. Total student debt outstanding appears to have surpassed $1 trillion late last year, said officials at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a federal agency created in the wake of the financial crisis. That would be roughly 16% higher than an estimate earlier this year by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

    This is a bubble if I ever saw one and this will burst, there is no way students will be paying this off, no way in hell. :(

  2. Suppose student loan is a bubble, what's the downside?

    Probably most of the loans are for students who won't finish school.

    A degree isn't going to lose value if they do graduate.

    Taxpayers are on the hook.

    Collegges arn't going to take a hit on a default.

    Putzorino;s who go to college don't have any work skills anyways.(yeah well - a few do).

    Ya think this is the reason finance isn't taught in high school.

    You know what the number one piece a mail a college student gets?

    Credit card offers. WTf?
  3. Student debt IS something that everyone needs to be concerned about as it eventually affects us all. Even those of us who paid for our kids to go to college. My son married a girl with 50K debt and no degree to show for it. For the 1st four years of their marriage she "worked" to pay it down but the balance NEVER shrank. I finally suggested they use his 401K to pay it off and they did. Very risky but the interest rates her loan co's were charging was usury and at least he is paying the interest to himself now and the debt WILL finally get paid. Divorce probably to follow...:(

    At any rate...what prevents kids from putting the student debt on credit cards...THEN declaring BK?
  4. Eight


    BK's stay on the record, simple credit card defaults can be removed if you know the right lawyer.. The student debt is in a class by itself. The IRS keeps your tax refunds if you default for one thing. That puts a wrinkle in things.

    In this time when the economy should be in full recovery and it's not, student loans are keeping the 20-30 yo crowd from participating in the economy.

    Let me see if I get this right: Government intervention into housing loans caused the current crisis. Government intervention into education financing is partly responsible for the slow economy. Government debt is leading to higher taxation and higher taxation is partly responsible for the slow economy... OK, is there a pattern here that anybody can grasp? Believe me, people still do not grasp the pattern, they will not grasp the pattern even when inflation has starved their grandparents to death. That is why history repeats itself! I'm thinking, with regard to history repeating itself that we might as well try to just be on the right side of the trade all the time.
  5. AK100


    8, you're spot on brother re the govt above and nope, the majority will never get it as they're so uneducated they're beyond help.
  6. no surprise. women without men help are helpless :D
    btw, she probably think its man task to pay her bills, debt, perfumes, shoes, etc.
  7. Its ignorant to generalize about women.
  8. How twue. Not all women get their period, pms. get bitchey and run out of rags at the worst possible time. Ruff. ruff...:eek:
  9. :D :D :p
  10. piezoe


    Perhaps this is not exactly correct. It seems to me the real underlying pattern is government legislation friendly to special interest groups, at the expense of the taxpayer and also at the expense of students, in the case of student loans.

    It can be said that it was a lack of "government intervention", i.e., failure of the Greenspan Fed to regulate mortgage lending, that led to the mortgage and financial industry crisis. Certainly government debt, and the need to partly monetize it, is leading to high indirect taxation of the lower and middle classes due to inflation, as you say. But the real culprit and underlying pattern is constant pandering of Government to special interests. with the cost reflected mainly in inflation, that insidious indirect tax that hits the poor harder than the wealthy.

    For a long time the student loan program was a giveaway to banks because the risk was shifted to the taxpayer. Students, by and large, also got screwed. The Obama administration has made some headway in reining in some of these excesses.

    State subsidies of higher education have been shrinking in nominal dollars even in the face of significant inflation, whereas State expenditures for Prisons has been growing. California spends nearly half again as much on prisons as they do on higher education. This is a pattern repeated in all the States with prisons run by for-profit corporations. U.S. prison populations exploded after prisons were privatized. This is just another example of the underlying fundamental problem: Government subsidy of corporations at taxpayer expense driven by special interest legislation at both the Federal and State levels. It's ruining the country.

    The often repeated exhortation from the political right that government can't do any thing right and that virtually everything except the military should be "privatized" is simply wrong. This right-turn down the wrong road we owe mainly to the Reagan Administration and an irresponsible Congress. It seems too late to do anything about it now that the Court, too, has weighed in on the side of special interests and their firm control of what was "our" government.

    Government debt is completely out of control, but it is a common fallacy to blame the welfare state, and in particular the self-funding entitlement programs for this. Only one entitlement program is in real trouble and that is medicare. And it is because medicine in the U.S. is a government protected Cartel of private interests. The real culprits however are government subsidies of the Banking and Corporate sectors, and in particular the "military industrial complex". It would be hilarious if it were not so pathetic to read on ET that the only part of the government that is well-managed is the military, when in reality that's were the greatest malfeasance and inefficiencies occur.

    The government still, in fact, does a lot of things quite well, but the pentagon and extra-constitutional NSA and CIA operations are not some of them. If I give you a blank check to do almost anything, and also, in particular, in the the case of the NSA and CIA, allow you to hide your budget from public scrutiny, I dare say the result can be quite spectacular, but at tremendous inefficiency of expenditure.

    So I see unpaid student loans as just another manifestation of a far more serious problem.
    #10     Apr 1, 2012