Wal-Mart Rations Rice, this is out of control...

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    What I don't understand with Rice craze is the fact that the world rice prices seems indexed on Chicago' Rough Rice which trades about 1000-2000 contracts per day on the front month...

    Please tell me that the 5 guys trading 10 lots on this market have no influence on world rice prices and thus famines in Africa and that this bull market has external causes ...
     
    #11     Apr 23, 2008
  2. 2ticks

    2ticks

    Uncle Ben = Helicopter Ben's evil twin.
     
    #12     Apr 23, 2008
  3. zdreg

    zdreg

    #13     Apr 23, 2008
  4. RhinoGG

    RhinoGG Guest

    my neighbor Ramesh and Sangeeta are going ape-shit without their basmati. Its only 4 rupees for a 50lb bag in bangalore. ( that's 10 U.S. cents).
     
    #14     Apr 23, 2008
  5. zdreg

    zdreg

    that is only possible with a substantial subsidy from the indian government.
    how is the subsidy calculated?
     
    #15     Apr 23, 2008
  6. Holy Crap, welcome to Soviet America.
     
    #16     Apr 23, 2008
  7. S2007S

    S2007S

    Japan turns down 60,000 tons of rice due to high prices - Thai exporters
    04.23.08, 7:34 AM ET


    BANGKOK (Thomson Financial) - Japan has turned down 60,000 tons of rice from Thailand after the asking price nearly doubled in the space of a month, the Thai Rice Exporters Association said Wednesday.


    http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/04/23/afx4922498.html
     
    #17     Apr 23, 2008
  8. This week's 'Economist' is headlined "The Silent Tsunami" which perhaps is not so silent anymore.

    lj
     
    #18     Apr 23, 2008


  9. The Rice market is predominantly cash, not a futures one. When you trade the physical rice, what you are looking for is the basis spread (the spread between cash vs future price).

    The spread has been widening for sometime, That has been putting a lot of pressure on producers. with that basis divergence, multinational grain companies will not buy grain more than 60 days out, That has put farmers in financial trouble, unable to project sales income for the upcoming harvest or prepay input costs. with futures and cash not converging anyway, and banks drained of extra funds to finance positions of farmers or grain elevators, there's no incentives to hedge.

    On The other hand, According to a United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) report, the world's milled rice stocks in 2007-08 totalled 77.19 million tonnes against total demand of 451 million tonnes and Vietnam has maintained rice stocks at only 1.09 million tonnes of milled rice against demand of up to 23.72 million tonnes. Asia is the world largest producer and consumer of rice.

    The USD has been a critical factor in this ecuation.
     
    #19     Apr 23, 2008
  10. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Thanks a lot for the clarification... I was quite sure RR was not of great influence, given the quantity of rice traded.
     
    #20     Apr 23, 2008