Wait, so is S&P going to downgrade the United States of America @ 8:15pm EST ??!!

Discussion in 'Economics' started by bond_trad3r, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. But lets be realistic, after the first stimulus was announced, how many people with any business sense actually believed treasuries were worth a damn? So this downgrade really is only going to scare Joe Public into panic selling stocks.... and prolly buying the treasuries that were just downgraded lol
     
    #21     Aug 5, 2011
  2. morganist

    morganist Guest

    Yes. But still I think precious metals is the way forward long term.
     
    #22     Aug 5, 2011
  3. clacy

    clacy

    At this point, the gold up trend is still well in tact. Look at a 20 year chart of the S&P priced in gold. Stocks have been horrible since 2000. Until that changes, why not be in gold?
     
    #23     Aug 5, 2011
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  5. morganist

    morganist Guest

    #25     Aug 5, 2011
  6. This is a bit out of my personal trading realm. Is there a concrete tangible ramification to this downgrade?

    It's clearly embarrassing as hell, but does it have practical impact on anyone?
     
    #26     Aug 5, 2011
  7. I agree,

    History repeats, and if history is right again , this fiat currency shouldn't last much more than 40 years. ( came of gold standard in 71) .

    Although I hate the dollar I am heavy in cash right now because I believe people fly to cash during panics. Thing is gold sometimes dumps during panics too . I'm patiently waiting to see how this plays out. Already have taken a lot of gains from PM's off the table from early 09. I'm sidelined basically in regards to my long term funds ready to take advantage of short term volatility.
     
    #27     Aug 5, 2011
  8. morganist

    morganist Guest

    It means you are going to have to pay a higher interest rate on the two and half trillion Obama is going to use to win the next election.

    Correct me if I am wrong.
     
    #28     Aug 5, 2011

  9. Yes, I'm about 25ish pages in. Im trying not to get swayed by your words ^^. I've looked so much at the US and know so little Europe (aside from UK total debt to GDP at 500 % which should make it shittier than US?). I agree with whats written so far, but so far it doesn't sound too different from mainstream criticism against the EZ.
     
    #29     Aug 5, 2011

  10. Well japan debt is AA ....People seem ok with Japan... so who knows. The market will speak soon enough.
     
    #30     Aug 5, 2011