"W" Movie

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Dr. Zhivodka, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Oliver Stone makes movies against war, the corrupt, and the worlds manipulators -------------> Oliver Stone who is reported frequently to use drugs then starts getting numerous serious drug charges (remember, three strikes and your out law) -------------> Oliver Stone STOPS getting drug charges and makes the movies "WTC" and then "W."

    hhhhhmmm!

    Oliver you sold out cheap my man! :eek: :eek:
     
    #11     Oct 21, 2008
  2. Oliver.....so you did not want to also cover some of the great bush family history???


    BUSH-NAZI LINK CONFIRMED


    Documents in National Archives Prove George W. Bush's
    Grandfather Traded with Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor

    by John Buchanan (Exclusive to the New Hampshire Gazette)


    WASHINGTON - After 60 years of inattention and even denial
    by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in
    The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that
    Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush,
    served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative
    for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926
    until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush
    and his "enemy national" partners.

    The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according
    to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury, tried to
    conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz
    Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s,
    personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion
    of democratic principle and German law.

    Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush
    and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger
    brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George
    Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather,
    continued their dealings with the German industrial tycoon for
    nearly a year after the U.S. entered the war.

    No Story?
    For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported
    by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have
    appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but
    were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented
    diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official"
    Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S.
    history books covering World War II and its aftermath.

    The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.

    The Summer of '42
    The unraveling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S.
    enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of
    offices at 39 Broadway in New York under the supervision of
    Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran simultaneously in
    the New York Herald-Tribune and Washington Post on July 31,
    1941. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for
    nearly eight months.

    "Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank," declared the front-page
    Herald-Tribune headline. The lead paragraph characterized Fritz
    Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact,
    the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded
    Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography,
    I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct
    personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf
    Hess.

    The Herald-Tribune also cited unnamed sources who suggested
    Thyssen's U.S. "nest egg" in fact belonged to "Nazi bigwigs" including
    Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, or even Hitler himself.

    Business is Business
    The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of
    Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland,
    was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According
    to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a
    number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as
    many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped
    overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury bonds. The company's
    activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born,
    naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as
    president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush
    a managing director.


    The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman
    as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which
    they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential
    FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the
    Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals
    were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as
    Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated.

    After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman
    made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial
    Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper
    report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in
    the U.S.

    Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners
    increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and
    ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the U.S.
    entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense,
    Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee U.S. matters for his
    Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC
    for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to U.S. government
    investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands
    bank or the role of Thyssen in it. Brown Brothers Harriman sent
    letters to the government seeking reconsideration of the seizures
    by using false information.

    UBC's original group of business associates included George
    Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather,
    who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in
    1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman traveled to
    Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and
    investment operations, which were largely based on critical
    war resources such as steel and coal.

    The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also
    included partnership with another German titan who supported
    Hitler's rise, Friedrich Flick, who partnered with Thyssen in the
    German Steel Trust that forged the Nazi war machine. For his
    role in using slave labor and his own steel, coal and arms
    resources to build Hitler's war effort, Flick was convicted at the
    Nuremberg trials and sentenced to prison.

    The Family Business
    In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter,
    Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the
    private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman & Co.,
    also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm
    that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest
    private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became
    a director of and stockholder in UBC.

    However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman,
    Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees,"
    or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank,
    meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German
    client.

    Seized
    On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the
    Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its
    assets after the war. The seizure is confirmed by Vesting
    Order No. 248 in the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian
    and signed by U.S. Alien Property Custodian Leo T. Crowley.

    In August, under the same authority, Congress had seized the
    first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities,
    Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. 126, also
    signed by Crowley. Eight days after the seizure of UBC,
    Congress invoked the Trading with the Enemy Act again to
    take control of two more Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses
    - Holland-American Trading Corp. (Vesting Order No. 261)
    and Seamless Steel Equipment Corp. (Vesting Order No. 259).

    The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes
    and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal,
    steel and U.S. Treasury bonds, to their foreign clients overseas
    between 1931-33, as Hitler engineered his rise to power.


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    #12     Oct 22, 2008
  3. The previous post belongs in the PandR section of ET.

    Please move it so we can continue to make fun of "Alexander" and the rest of Oliver Stones awful movies. :)
     
    #13     Oct 22, 2008
  4. I´m sure all of the ¨movie critics on this thread will be lining up on the opening night to see Money Never Sleeps :p
     
    #14     Jun 18, 2009