VXX a good buy at current levels?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by mramaswamy1, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. Not in this case.
     
    #11     Jun 18, 2012
  2. sle

    sle

    This is so misguided at some many levels, I don't even know where to start. Do you at least understand that when you are trading futures, you are subject to the same risk-premium capture (positive or negative) as you are when you are trading ETFs?
     
    #12     Jun 18, 2012
  3. Bored

    Bored

     
    #13     Jun 19, 2012
  4. Options12

    Options12 Guest

    It won't go to "zero" only because Barclays will declare a reverse split as the note value nears 10.

    If you are speculating as to whether or not the note value might shed another 15 pre-split dollars over the next year or two, the answer is yes.
     
    #14     Jun 19, 2012
  5. VXX has effectively gone to zero.

    Any VIX ETF that has a hard-coded algorithm for positions and rolling...
    And many of them do...
    Can be reverse-calculated...
    All the way back to March 2004 (introduction of VIX).

    (just google this).

    VXX would have been trading at 1700 in March 2004...
    So it's gone from 1700 to 16.54 = 99% decline.

    And it will do so again over the next 10 years...
    But it's not trivial to withstand 500% spikes...
    And maintain a short in terms of Stock Loan, etc

    So you can't just short VXX long term...
    But you can set up hedges...
    That capture most of the roll yield.
     
    #15     Jun 19, 2012
  6. Some past threads regarding VXX:

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=239213

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=240342&perpage=6&pagenumber=1

    Regarding the question of whether it "cannot go to 0", Barclays can announce a 1 for 4 reverse split anytime the VXX falls below 25:

    http://www.ipathetn.com/static/pdf/ipath-split-FAQs.pdf
     
    #16     Jun 22, 2012
  7. so....who lost there ass on tvix?
    just got in at 5.39
    will I lose my ass to lol ...not glta
     
    #17     Jun 22, 2012
  8. To get back to the OP "is VXX a good buy".

    Pros sell options for a living = sell time premium...
    Often at highly inflated rates...
    Likely because retail/public perception of future volatility...
    Is always too high....
    Or retail/public/hedge funds are willing to overpay.

    Since VIX is based on SPX option prices...
    Pros sell VIX and VIX related ETN/ETFs...
    As a proxy for selling SPX options.

    So the only intelligent question is...
    "Is it a good time to short VXX"?

    Cliff Notes = Pros always sell volatilty

    http://www.surlytrader.com/volatility-selling-strategies/
     
    #18     Jun 24, 2012
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    #19     Jun 24, 2012
  10. I Lost my ass in TVIX
    Have 1700 Shares @ $6.55 averaged from $8
    Even with the downgrade and fear in the market with Greece , spain it just does not go up
    Next time i would probably by sds , tza , or some index etff
    TVIX , VXX is a big mistake
     
    #20     Jun 24, 2012