VW shares up 54 % on Porsche move

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by ASusilovic, Oct 27, 2008.

  1. yes it can happen to all your stocks. so keep holding the bag and pray.
     
    #11     Oct 27, 2008
  2. dik in barrons said Volks was obviously overpriced.
     
    #12     Oct 27, 2008
  3. Is Porsche going to buy 75% of all gold? :D
     
    #13     Oct 27, 2008
  4. And at what specified price was it overpriced?

    There is no rationality in a short squeeze.
     
    #14     Oct 27, 2008
  5. he was saying this based on the price AFTER it dropped to 200 on Friday. Now 500+

    Short some more
     
    #15     Oct 27, 2008
  6. This was from Barrons Fri.


    Perhaps the most overvalued big company on the planet remains Volkswagen (VOW.Germany), the European auto maker whose shares fell 40% to 210 euros last week but still trade at a big premium to rivals like Daimler (DAI) and BMW (BMW.Germany). Barron's wrote skeptically on VW recently. VW still fetches nearly 20 times earnings, while Daimler has a P/E of five and BMW just six based on projected 2008 profits. VW has benefited from a big short squeeze that has started to abate. Its shares could fall under 100 euros, analysts say. Its market value of $84 billion is triple Daimler's, a seemingly nutty situation.
     
    #16     Oct 27, 2008
  7. "Its market value of $84 billion is triple Daimler's, a seemingly nutty situation."

    Wake up Barron's, it is a short squeeze, it isn't supposed to make sense.

    Porsche owns 42.6% of VW stock and has options for 31.5% giving a total of 74.1%. Lower Saxony owns 20% of VW, so only 5.9% of VW is left for everyone else.

    5.9% of VW is the only difference between a short squeeze and a corner.
     
    #17     Oct 28, 2008



  8. They can't trade those accounts in receivership.

    Essentially toast. They will have to liquidate other positions to make margin calls.

    The highly leveraged un-hedged imbeciles are toast. I doubt anyone will be foolish enough to give money to these people again.

    With new regulations and Paulson out to shoot everyone of them dead, the "hedge-fund" industry is essentially toast.

    SAC is ahead of the curve. Others will follow.
     
    #18     Oct 28, 2008
  9. yes, if baron does not know these facts he is a fool.
    But there are 2 ways out of this.
    1) VW emmits new stocks (Kapitalerhöhung)
    2) Niedersachsen sells its stake

    1) is especially attractive because VW (Piech) still does not like to have Wiedeking in the boat. And they could raise a lot of cash now from the Hedgefunds beeing under enormous pressure.

    I think one of the 2 will happen and VW shares back to 200 in minutes.
     
    #19     Oct 28, 2008
  10. #20     Oct 28, 2008