Thanks DB_sezwhat!! Now things look different. Jack, can we agree on one platform so that we both/everybody see the same thing and talk about the same thing? Ninjatrader is excluded. In Tradenavigator I imported Spyder's library but it seems to display the same thing as Ninjatrader. If even Spyder's code which must surely be approved by you doesn't display the formations correctly what can I do?
I am a bit curious as to how you over come a key issue. When looking at volume on a daily chart we can see how changes. On a intraday chart we see volume tends to have a natural U shape formation. On the daily chart we can draw lines to see differences. It would seem that to see unusual volume we must compare volume to see how it deviates from the U formation. Your chart is made at the end of the day. I know it is more complex then simply looking at prv and volume acceleration. But volume always accelerates near the end of the day and we see more and more orders being placed in a 5 min time frame. On the attached chart we can see the U formation, we can also see it is not consistent, we see unusual acceleration that is not typical twice here.
OR, is it: points 54 - 64 are in a down trend with decreasing volume points 74 on is an uptrend with increasing volume. Do we just assume that increasing volume will win as it is said to be the direction of the trend. But this happens every day evrey close. Can we not say that by looking at price direction in decreasing volume before the 3:30ish volume kicks in will tell us what side not to be on as volume kicks in ? Thanks for your time to post this on my thread.
Trading live is best done by recording. I believe gotomeeting has that capability. Another topic is making a trading record. Perhaps you have an approach you use to check out others. At this time I am hoping for input that others could take a look at for whatever reason. So, if you have a suggestion, post your suggestion. The P&L thread is showing many different ways to post records. A lot of people do that very thing in that thread. I do have a concern about reverse engineering. It is not possible for others to reverse engineer what I do using a 55 year sample so far. As far as I know, the SEC has not figured out what I do. They do detect the results as is well known. Their citations were withdrawn for a very humorous reason. Naturally, our opposition reached its goal as a consequence.
Let me know the template (which has a list of library items) you are using and I will review the maths there. So far TN has not kept up with other platforms on the required bar-by bar degapping. As a consequence, I am writing all my pieces as if TN has completed that task. This means that you have to deal with this failing of TN. On laterals, the lat 3 formula only dealt with the intial pair being a sym. This is incorrect as you know. TN data is the best I have found. I am an amateur so I am not a vendor. I avoid reporting requirements since reporting is often used by others to get information.
In monitoring and analysis, a person has to use a complete set of "cases". Usually they are named. Price is a lagging indicator since it is a dependent variable. This makes price a limmited variable. Thus, I turned to the leading variable of the market. I lso look at the space (regions the variables ocupy) As the future moves into the present, people use three operators to sense visually. Each deals with a separate process. The operators are named: space, shape, and movement. Space has container limits; they can be continuing as is or they can be violated. Shape is a formation. formations usually are fixed. The mathematics of all shapes is simple execept for one. I regard the cases of price as finite and they are 10 in number. Movement refers to a shape going to a different place in a space. Animals who prey are good at taking this into account. Sensing (10%) combines with acquired and remembered stuff called "inference"(90%). your post shows how you have remembered something and that something is changed from what you were originally told in writing and by pictorial example. You percieve three bars: a first bar and a group of two additional bars. recently, because others have found, correctly, there are faults in my posts, I am trying to cover all bases to attain a singular common "inference system". Regarding a lateral shape, it comes into being by two bars meeting a set of formation equations, then as the future comes through a vertical space right wall anther single third bar either metes or doesnot meet a defined combination of requirements. I call these a shaddow. This completes an initial shape formation requirement. Then the RDBMS requirements are obeyed from that point onward. All of this fits nicely under the egis of the Scientific Method. The result is a fully and completely defined system that has no noise, no flaws and no anomalies. So far I am unable to communicate this knowledgably and thoroughly. My means of filtering people away from me is to prevent them from using their weak inference or lack of inference. It is a very workable solution.