Maybe it is true on T&S, but not on regular price volume bars. So for longer term traders is not that relevant for the entry, as I see it. Am I wrong ? Most of the time the entry would have been too late with some volume increase and would not justify the RR, if you use turning point for your stop loss as well for inital profit target to calculate RR. But the theme is, does volume precede price ? What do you say ? Cheers Sundog