Volume analysis is to be discarded as it is "too much information"

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2009.

Volume analysis of any use?

  1. I believe in using volume analysis

    162 vote(s)
    58.5%
  2. I discard volume analysis in my trading

    71 vote(s)
    25.6%
  3. I really don't know

    43 vote(s)
    15.5%
  1. OH I think the guru is morphing into a chicken
     
    #471     Aug 4, 2009
  2. Redneck

    Redneck

    Just sold 1K LVS @ $10.5401

    Profit $573.20 less comm

    Time 9:37:13 EST

    Want me to prove it Sir?

    Now I am going to work.....


    RN
     
    #472     Aug 4, 2009
  3. Redneck

    Redneck

    As far as I am concerned this matter ends here


    Now I would now like to respectfully and humbly sit down, shut up, and return back among the rank and file (my friends here)


    Fully knowing nothing has changed…..

    I am still just a dumbass trader – who has no idea what the market will do next…., Nor do I care… I’ll just trade it – and either lose or make money


    Tara – Thank You Kindly


    IMHO – PA coupled with volume analysis – at times – works…. However – as with all things – each trader’s mileage may vary



    Regards

    RN
     
    #473     Aug 4, 2009
  4. Redneck trader, your conduct in these forums is most becoming. We may disagree from time to time, but you're a gent. We both know that neither of us can draw any meaningful conclusions from a only handful of trades. However, just out of curiosity, let me ask you this: If you had simply disregarded volume from your setup criteria, would you have fared better, worse, or about the same over the last several trades? (The number of which will depend entirely on your willingness to indulge my request.) Might you have taken more losing trades, or perhaps missed out on other potentially profitable setups had your volume criteria not filtered them out? Essentially, a quick-and-dirty cost-benefit review of including/excluding volume in the mix as it pertains specifically to your own trading.
     
    #474     Aug 4, 2009
  5. jjf

    jjf

    You give up easily RN

    jjf
     
    #475     Aug 4, 2009
  6. LOL :D :D :D

    When Redneck called-you-out for talking shit about his trading account, you went and hid in the fucking corner. Now that he's done with you, you can't wait to log back on to ET and start talking shit again.

    Congratulations, you get the TROLL AWARD for the month of August. :p
     
    #476     Aug 4, 2009
  7. +1 :)
     
    #477     Aug 4, 2009
  8. Redneck

    Redneck

    T-Dog


    Thank You for the very kind words Sir


    Honestly in day trading I use it very – very sparingly – but do I use it consistently in my swing and investment accounts


    I see volume analysis as a tool no better or worse than any other tool – and not to be relied on any more or less – than any other tool I use

    And you know the old saying Sir - It works till it doesn’t


    I use it for

    1.) Ensuring enough intraday liquidity

    2.) Possibly identifying; “V” reversals and or exhaustion gaps/ capitulation

    3.) Helping me assess whether to stay in a trend a little longer (in all three accounts)

    So I do use it…



    Would I have faired any better with out it – I don’t know… It just gave me that little extra umph to get into the LVS swing position in my day trading account.

    BTW – I fully admit I broke one of my rules by swing trading my day trading account – man ego is such a bad thing….



    On my platform

    I consistently have price in different time frames and an EMA

    I turn volume on / off sporadically to see what I see – at times I get a read, other times I get nothing


    Going back over the last ~500 day trades stats… I’d say I’ve used it ~15 – 20 % of the time, – and my W/L ratio is about the same with or without it (maybe a frog’s hair better with it).

    Take Care
    RN
     
    #478     Aug 4, 2009
  9. Redneck

    Redneck

    Thank You Sir
     
    #479     Aug 4, 2009
  10. Thanks, RN. As I noted earlier, I found no discernible value in volume with respect to my own trading. That's why I'm curious how other people's performance would have varied had they excluded volume from the mix, all else being equal.

    I hope other traders who look at volume will take the time to make a critical assessment with respect to their own trading method and report their findings.
     
    #480     Aug 4, 2009