Volume analysis is to be discarded as it is "too much information"

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Buy1Sell2, Jul 6, 2009.

Volume analysis of any use?

  1. I believe in using volume analysis

    162 vote(s)
    58.5%
  2. I discard volume analysis in my trading

    71 vote(s)
    25.6%
  3. I really don't know

    43 vote(s)
    15.5%
  1. Lol - it's what - about an hour since I posted?

    To answer your question in detail is impossible here as I previously wrote and that's why I have posted free resources. That will allow you to learn enough to decide it if it something that works for you, but it does require considerable time and effort.

    To be more specific re. Globex and Premarket trading you need to compare like with like. In other words you are going to be comparing the volume signals in that period when the volume bars are much shorter with similar sized bars in that time period.

    The same goes for the lunch period when the volume dies off and signals are more subtle. But in order to train your eye you need to begin with RTH and not try to run before you can walk.
     
    #321     Jul 20, 2009
  2. open a chart .. 1 minute time frame will do.. if you can dial in even more say liek every 225 or 30s with a OHLC bar this would be even better but it is clearly recognizable on a 1 min. look for the super low or no volume (volume bars). Now look at the price move 1-2 minutes after that.. ny movement i mean the price range of the (value bars) not the volume bars... anyway the moves will be much larger range than average becasue it is easy to move the rock(price) when there is little or no volume.
    use stops to open positions above and below the super low volume bars and let the momentum get you in.. let the market decide for you. obviously oco ORDER IS A MUST (ONE CANCELS OTHER)
     
    #322     Jul 20, 2009
  3. jjf

    jjf

    Did I get this right.
    You answered my question concerning ES with a recommendation for me not to apply the answer to ES.

    jjf
     
    #323     Jul 20, 2009
  4. dum bass if you have the bank roll to throw 1000 lots arouond in the es then you can apply this to the es.. you most likely need to stick to ultra penny stocks.. like say 1/10th of a cent ro go trade in zimbabwe.. i gave you more knowledge in that answer i gave you than you will ever get from any book or years of trading.. but now i see how ignorant you are... anything you learn in trading can be applied to anything that trades..geez.. call your mom because i think your diaper is dirty.. i can smell it over the internet.

    in closing... jjf you are dumb as a rock..lol there is LOW volume at lunch and overnight that is why you are seeing these "positioning" moves in the es.. in reality they are not positioning moves.. they are moves for suckers like you... cuz its easy to move the market during those times.. you got it .. jerky!
     
    #324     Jul 20, 2009
  5. jjf

    jjf

    Have you ever tried comparing like with like at ES pre open and lunch break.

    jjf
     
    #325     Jul 20, 2009
  6. ok ok.. my last post i promise.. train your eye? jjf are you a pirate you only have one eye? lmao! seriously make sure you do not blink while training your eye because you could miss a whopping tick in the es with a 1 lot or a 1 cent move on a stock.. lol...


    VOLUME ONLY gives a TELL whne there is unusually low volum eor unusually high volume.. especially in stock options.. this shows interest or no interest at certain price level ragnes.. this is the most ridiculous place i have ever found on the net.. it is great for me to blow off steam.. since my positions.. are all doing just fine...
     
    #326     Jul 20, 2009
  7. I take it that's the depth of your analysis without reading up on the resources I gave you? Is that how you intend to progress?

    I've only been trading 25 years so I might have tried it, like a few times :)

    Seriously, as I have repeated, if you want a fast fix don't try this. If you want to learn advanced recognition try learning the signals in the busy period first. You are working ass about face.

    The Pre Open is often the most lucrative time to trade and you can identify if the strong hands are in the market. If so they dictate the trend that is later called a strong open.
     
    #327     Jul 20, 2009
  8. jjf

    jjf

    A simple yes or no would have covered it.

    jjf
     
    #328     Jul 20, 2009
  9. No it wouldn't. You asked me how to handle the pre opening. I told you. Then you ask me if I have ever tried what I told you to do.

    You are asking for the answer you got and you need to know you are trying the hardest part first.
     
    #329     Jul 20, 2009
  10. jjf

    jjf

    I see you believe in bringing a lot of emotion to your trading efforts

    jjf
     
    #330     Jul 20, 2009