Volcker Rule

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by EvOTraderV2, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. We never need to use GS for "leverage" - don't need to. We also shouldn't be affected by transaction taxes, only retail. B/D, Series 7 takes us off the "retail" list altogether.

    FWIW,

    Don
     
    #11     Feb 17, 2012
  2. Not so sure about DOA in the States, I say 50/50 at this point in time.


    Don
     
    #12     Feb 17, 2012
  3. Thanks for the reply Don. What is the worst possible impact from all of this for prop firms like yours and the traders who trade there?
     
    #13     Feb 17, 2012
  4. If you're asking about the FTT, then it's all positive for our traders. We will be exempt, as things look today. It's the retail traders, who will have to pay this outrageous tax. I expect a big surge in Bright Traders when this takes effect, and many are planning ahead right now.

    If you're referring to something else, let me know.

    And, check out my request for suggestions in the other thread.

    Thanks,

    Don
     
    #14     Feb 18, 2012
  5. Who are you hearing will get exemptions?
     
    #15     Feb 18, 2012
  6. GS tells me we will. And "as says GS, as is with the world" LOL.

    Don
     
    #16     Feb 18, 2012
  7. Will other prop firms like WTS or Echo be exempt as well?

    From what I am reading the tax would be 0.03 percent per transaction.

    Will each share be counted as a transaction? I hope not. That means if I go long or short 100 shares of a $100 stock then I am paying $3 to get in and $3 to get out. That is $6 overall for one complete trade or "round turn".

    I really hope I am wrong in my example above. I'm not a rebate trader but that will even hurt a trader like me who does 20 to 30 trades per day.
     
    #17     Feb 18, 2012
  8. OK, here's how it works. 3/100 of one percent of the total dollars spent.

    100 shares of IBM at about $200. $20,000 right? Let's see. 1% would be $200, 3 hundreth of that is $6.00 - FOR every hundred shares, man. 2,000 shares would be $120 - a total deal breaker.

    Don
     
    #18     Feb 18, 2012
  9. So when will this thing be voted on? What is the current status of this FTT? I cant find clear answers from search so far.
     
    #19     Feb 18, 2012
  10. Rob227

    Rob227

    Overall if the FTT goes through I don't see how this helps prop traders if there are less participants in the market overall and less liquidity in the market.

    Am I missing something here? Can someone help explain how this may be a benefit for prop trading because of these factors? Other than the fact that more people will move from retail to prop trading. That may benefit the prop trading firms but how does this help the trader?

    It would seemingly kill retail trading if they impose the .03% tax that has been mentioned here. Retail trading is already expensive as it is.
     
    #20     Feb 18, 2012