Vol-trading for beginners

Discussion in 'Journals' started by destriero, Feb 14, 2021.

  1. Yes more or less. Last time my short vol stuff worked so well was sometime right after the fin crisis of '08. The vix futures are ridiculously overpriced given how the sp is moving. If you have a robust method of spreading the two you are making bank. Just don't do what Ronin did :banghead:
     
    #131     Feb 27, 2021
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  2. Ronin blew up on the expiration trade, which is not really a short vol trade per se.
     
    #132     Feb 27, 2021
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  3. destriero

    destriero

    I was short NDX vol and moved into SPX on Thursday close. I am short 40K vega and short 2-3K delts.
     
    #133     Feb 27, 2021
  4. I alluded to their size not method.
     
    #134     Feb 27, 2021
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    ???
    buying a put is like shorting the future.
     
    #135     Feb 27, 2021
  6. Yes, they literally bet the farm on a single print. YOLO in it's finest.
     
    #136     Feb 27, 2021
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  7. samuel11

    samuel11

    wait, they yolo'ed on a vix monthly expiration?
     
    #137     Feb 27, 2021
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    This is very bad news for my outright longs I guess.
     
    #138     Feb 27, 2021
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  9. destriero

    destriero


    The short 40K SPX vols is a lot of impactful that 2-3K deltas. Vol trades inverse to price so the 40K vols should earn more than I lose to deltas. I made a lot on Friday trading D1.
     
    #139     Feb 27, 2021
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Thanks for trying to make me feel better, in your weird options way, hehe.
     
    #140     Feb 27, 2021
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