VIX trade for 8/18 exp

Discussion in 'Options' started by atticus, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Is there a good app/plugin that will work well with ib/excel for evaluation of these 3D surfaces trades to visually assess reward/risk for these combo Px-Volat trades?. I'd hate to write my own.
     
    #81     Sep 2, 2011
  2. why would you copy my trade without knowing what it is, i am just experimenting with vix/vxx options as noted. vxx was close to vix spot(~40) while future was well below spot, so figured i sell the put on future and long the vxx put.

    The requirement is way too high since it's treated as a naked short on vix not a spread and didnt behave as i expected, got out with a ~$100 loss and switched over to atticus 20-50 fly using calls.

    VIX Sep11 20 Call * CBOE VOLATILITY INDEX 5 $14.12 $14.30 90.00
    VIX Sep11 35 Call * CBOE VOLATILITY INDEX -10 $3.74 $2.70 1,040.00
    VIX Sep11 50 Call * CBOE VOLATILITY INDEX 5 $1.06 $0.45 -305.00

    If you want to blindly follow, follow atticus trades :p
     
    #82     Sep 2, 2011
  3. len_len27

    len_len27

    I thought you are expirenced trader, so I enter trade you recommend. You should post when to exit. This thread and other are 5 star, 5 star is good, no?
     
    #83     Sep 2, 2011
  4. i am so sorry you lost $200 because i recommended this trade by saying "dipping my toe in this vix thing..trying out some trades". Next time i will be sure to set an outlook reminder so I can remember to post my exit on those 1 contract trades just in the off chance someone might be copying. Do you also want me to paypal you the $200 you lost?

    I am definitely not the one you should be following, actually even atticus is not good enough. You need the invincible #1 trader on ET named forexforex. Just do a search for his name and he will gladly take you under his wings.
     
    #84     Sep 2, 2011
  5. Atticus: Must find a way to morph these calendars with something that has more deltas as the trade progresses...any suggestions?.
     
    #85     Sep 5, 2011
  6. Dynamically ratio-ing the calendar perhaps?. (Shooting ideas out there).
     
    #86     Sep 5, 2011
  7. It's going to cost you in vol and price to add to the position once you're up on marks. Say you were long a put outright; would you add to the put position or attempt to add a "stop" through a conversion to a vertical?

    There is nothing magical about a calendar. You need neutrality along with the bump in vol to see the outsized return.

    So yeah, ratio the calendar to neutralize a bit of gamma, but do so from the outset.
     
    #87     Sep 7, 2011
  8. There are a million add-ins. MBRM, tech-hackers, montgomery, optionstar. Maybe open a TD/TOS account for the what-if and model functionality.
     
    #88     Sep 7, 2011
  9. Remain long the half-position in the 20-50 Sep fly that is marked to 9.77 mid and 34 cash.
     
    #89     Sep 7, 2011
  10. are you planning to hold to expiration? it seems i always close them too early in fear of getting pinned at expiration, this time plan to stick it out a bit longer.
     
    #90     Sep 8, 2011