VIX Skew - Market Collapse Impending?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by livevol_ophir, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. Good Stuff, thanks.
    I wonder if it is any more telling than say a put/call ratio metric...
    or if the two are simply correlated. Any thoughts?
     
    #11     Feb 12, 2010
  2. livevol_ophir

    livevol_ophir ET Sponsor

    I am cautious about put/call ratios on heavily traded issues. I love the ratio for illiquid names which all of a sudden show a huge disparity, but for the VIX, with nearly 250,000 contracts a day - prob not a great indicator.

    For what it's worth, today its 7:1 calls: puts. It averages 2:1 calls: puts
     
    #12     Feb 12, 2010
  3. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    Casual observation, the crisis started long before 09-09-08

    In fact I recall about Aug. 2007 a big fall in prices and the media played it off as the "exchange had a glitch" due to all the "selling"
    the truth, there were a lot of sellers AND the market couldn't handle it, beginning of that crisis, next one who knows


     
    #13     Feb 12, 2010
  4. livevol_ophir

    livevol_ophir ET Sponsor

    Yeah, I agree. I decided to go wth 9/9/08 just b/c it was a pre-cursor to a huge move in VIX - but yes, this didn't "start" in Sep '09... I agree.
     
    #14     Feb 12, 2010
  5. It all started with the Bear funds in June 07. Then on the 9th of Aug 07, three BNP funds suspended redemptions. After that, arnd the end of August, it was the collapse of Coventree, the Canadian commercial paper conduit.
     
    #15     Feb 12, 2010
  6. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    Yeah Bill Gross was calling for market crash with real estate underpinning back in 2004 I think ?

    His timing doesnt have to be correct just direction, eventually:D


    big $$$ easier to trade
     
    #16     Feb 12, 2010