vix mark up

Discussion in 'Options' started by FSU, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. You're selling OTM puts?

    How are you hedging?
     
    #11     Apr 18, 2018
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Wow. Way to general and in my experiance not true. Having the ability to follow a thesis on what your expectations are with the market today, and having the flexibility to do what works, is a better way of looking at it, IMO.
     
    #12     Apr 18, 2018
  3. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    WWWWOW.
    That strikes me as: "70+ y.o. Trumpeter challenges 30y.o gouty Kim to a cage match, winner takes on Xi for the Korean Peninsula" headline.
    I mean, what else?

    I'll take a look later, and see what might come to mind....
     
    #13     Apr 18, 2018
  4. FSU

    FSU


    The opportunity here is selling something way overpriced. Puts that sold at .25 on the opening, could be bought back at .10, 5 seconds later. You could also do time spreads for credits. I hate being short puts, even out of the money ones, but at the right price its worth it if you hedge or cover right away. That's the opportunity here, you can cover immediately for a profit.
     
    #14     Apr 18, 2018
  5. What happens to you if the underlying takes a multi-sigma move to the downside?
     
    #15     Apr 18, 2018
  6. FSU

    FSU

    There is a risk to every trade. I am short for probably less then a minute. Can something happen in that minute? Yes, but a risk worth taking.

    This is coming from someone who is rarely short premium and never net short puts overnight.
     
    #16     Apr 18, 2018
  7. I'm assuming your shorts got squeezed the f*ck out, it temporarily dipped only. o_O
    Unless you had precise hindsight timing, and closed around the dip bottom.

    I personally waited till 10:20am to initiate my long position call. -- not immediately at the open, or to assume then.
    You have to reasonably, loosely, generally know what to semi-expect...and wait and sit, and watch and monitor and position for it.
     
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    #17     Apr 18, 2018
  8. #18     Apr 18, 2018
  9. FSU

    FSU

    Not meaningless or business as usual. These are huge orders that are sent in that will change the vix settlement price. Customers have an opportunity to participate in these orders, which they don't have on other days in the SPX. Size is substantially larger than any other time.
     
    #19     Apr 18, 2018
  10. VIX and broad market SPX and SPY option volume so far today is very tame, or normal/average.
    https://www.barchart.com/options/most-active/indices?viewName=main

    Only 400,000 and 800,000 and 2,000,000, VIX and SPX and SPY option volume.
    ...I've seen other days where the volume so far is easily double or triple or even quadruple that.

    Like I said, nothing to write home about. -- If you will easily get this excited for every news story in financial markets daily...you will have your head spinning. and blood pressure up. and trading account blown-up. :confused:
    Hoo-Ah`
     
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    #20     Apr 18, 2018