VIX fly / spread journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Jgills, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. Jgills


    well, personally, i wouldnt run this fly here without the long front vol position so in that sense you can call it a hedge (and from my empiric view it does work as one), but i would run the long front vol position without the fly.

    i also didnt necessarily enter one BECAUSE of the other either. i had been long front vol then saw a chance to enter favorably into the fly, so i did.

    hope that will suffice
    #11     Oct 25, 2012
  2. axolotls


    What is that? I am only familiar with BWB as a variant to the std fly..
    #12     Oct 25, 2012
  3. Jgills


    didn't get a fill @ 18 yet...
    #13     Oct 26, 2012
  4. Jgills


    frustrating to get no fill there
    #14     Oct 26, 2012
  5. you missed it by a tick. mkt has moved away.

    for naked long vol, why not using vix ETPs?
    #15     Oct 26, 2012
  6. Jgills


    yeah - thats what i get for being a cheapo not paying up 5bps.

    i don't trade the ETPs for 2 reasons.

    1) i dont have the same flexability with my employer

    2) i don't see how they are the same, the etp's are there to mimic indicies or performance of something, i'd rather just express my view in a more pure manner
    #16     Oct 26, 2012
  7. Jgills


    i'm still alive - here in nyc and at work now.. nothing has changed in my position. if anyone is watching.. how are you all doing? did you fare well?
    #17     Oct 31, 2012
  8. Jgills


    somewhat active day today.

    i closed the long leg of the fly (jan/feb) at 0.65 i'm looking to exit the other leg as well some time today. the trade is currently 0.10 vol against me.

    i lifted 18.00 in nov
    #18     Nov 1, 2012
  9. Jgills


    closed the other leg of the fly - total loss is .15 vol on the fly.

    sellinindex - maybe you're right and i had agreed, but i just am not feelin this trade here.
    #19     Nov 1, 2012
  10. Jgills


    i am going to track my pnl on here in vol terms.

    my first trade was profit of 1.15 vol the fly had a loss of 0.15 vol, but the notional of the fly was 10x that of the nov. so net:

    +1.15 vol
    -1.50 vol

    = -0.45 vol pnl
    #20     Nov 1, 2012