VIX fly / spread journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Jgills, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. Jgills

    Jgills

    the spread looks very wide relative to the rest of the curve and is above historic averages for this part of the curve.

    atticus, you seem to have an opinion on it.. can you express it?
     
    #91     Dec 27, 2012
  2. U guys are entertaining me, thanks
     
    #92     Dec 27, 2012
  3. I don't trade these with enough freq, but I don't see any edge at 0.85. I would be long if I had to choose. I don't see the 22-23 line as sustainable into Jan.

    Edit, I see that you're short... I don't have any history on the mid-curve, so don't pay me any mind. I am sure dom or noop will have an opinion if you're in the room.
     
    #93     Dec 27, 2012
  4. weezy

    weezy

    Atticus- I started trading VIX spreads synthetically before the CFE introduced VIX spreads as an actual cleared product like the BOB spread can trade as a synthetic or an exchange listed product. the CFE spreads offered by the exchange are a recent listing and I recall seeing them indroduced but had no interest in trading them. I applaud your perspicacity.
     
    #94     Dec 27, 2012
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    #95     Dec 27, 2012
  6. Jgills

    Jgills

    i bought the apr/may/jun fly @ -0.20
     
    #96     Dec 27, 2012
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    why?

    I am long puts in Jan and Feb.
     
    #97     Dec 27, 2012
  8. Jgills

    Jgills

    i bought the belly (sold apr bought may sold june)

    -20bp to me is a good price
     
    #98     Dec 27, 2012
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    how much can you make on these? it seems like you will be playing for 20 or 30 cents.
     
    #99     Dec 27, 2012
  10. Jgills

    Jgills

    from here i'm looking for 40 - 60 cents, more than that would be great, 1 vol would be wondyful (but extreme)
     
    #100     Dec 27, 2012