Vitamin D supplement 'overdosing' is possible and harmful, warn doctors

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Frederick Foresight, Jul 6, 2022.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    That's like Lipitor. Fascinating. Call a lawyer.
     
    #11     Jul 6, 2022
  2. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    Well the good news is that the entire condition is completely reversible with enough physical therapy... aka resistance training workouts. And although my Mom is going through the process kicking and screaming because the workout culture was never her thing, I know it's the best for her moving forward.

    I actually had a coming to Jesus moment with her a few months ago, and that's when I gave her the speech that the only person responsible for her well-being is not her doctor, not her nurses, not her "medical team", but only herself. She didn't want to hear it at the time, but now she's admitted that what I said is 100% true.
     
    #12     Jul 6, 2022
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  3. iprph90

    iprph90

    My day job is dealing drugs >30 years...My sincere advice:

    1. Learn to be your own healthcare advocate. Don't assume your medical provider has your best interest in mind. Even if he does, ASK intelligent questions about treatment risks/prognosis. Sometimes health professionals write a Rx because they believe the patient is too lazy to make lifestyle changes.Healthcare is a business like any other business. If your questions are not addressed, seek another provider/second opinion. Please don't think that if you've read a few things on the internet, that makes YOU the expert. Trust the knowledge of professionals, but do your due diligence. Also, for context just be aware:
    • The U.S. spends more on health care as a share of the economy — nearly twice as much as the average OECD country — yet has the lowest life expectancy and highest suicide rates among the 11 nations.
    Studies cite >5% of hospital admissions have an iatrogenic cause.

    2. Vitamins and natural supplements are not regulated by the FDA. In general the FDA will step in only if a major health risk is suspected/reported.
    Stick with reputable suppliers and look for USP labeling on the container. If buying supplements, be leary of contaminates such as arsenic and lead. Again, do your research on the manufacturers. Spending more for fancy labels and exotic concoctions doesn't guarantee quality/safety/efficacy. Just because Dr Oz is pushing it doesn't make it a miracle cure. Before you start megadoses of supplements, get lab blood work for baseline..ie Vit D levels before starting on high doses.

    3. Unlearn the lay assumption that a magic pill -Rx or supplement-is gonna fix everything. Lifestyle/diet changes can alleviate much of polypharmacy and better outcomes longer-term.
     
    #13     Jul 6, 2022
  4. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    One of the best summary statements of health I've heard in a long time! :thumbsup:
     
    #14     Jul 6, 2022
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    But that does not negate the fact that your mom suffered because of the dumbasery of her "treating physician". Sue the fucker! He has Malpractice insurance! He need to pay for his mistakes, so he does not cause this suffering to others through his bullshit misunderstanding of medical science!

    No, no passes for all these blowhard doctors who think that just because they have a medical degree and can practice medicine, they can get away with it when they are wrong! NO! FUCK NO!

    I am MAD at this! You deserve recompense. And this is not some cheap tort play. This is real shit, man.
     
    #15     Jul 6, 2022
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  6. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Rather die overdosing on vitamin D then drop dead from a COVID vaccine. Both are dumb but the latter is based on lies and coercion.
     
    #16     Jul 6, 2022
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    OMG, will you just have a steaming hearty cup of STFU? Seriously?!?

    I don't pull that hearty cup acronym out of retirement for just anyone! You are special!
     
    #17     Jul 6, 2022
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  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    The ‘vaccines’ don’t work.
    Tell your friends!!!
     
    #18     Jul 6, 2022
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    You have not drunk from that steaming hearty cup of STFU.

    Laces, you may have your opinions, but they are getting old. Soon your ideas will be swept away.

    Don't be on the losing team. UNDERSTAND SHIT ONCE IN A WHILE?



    If you are too put out to watch a 5 min video, then you deserve your fate.
     
    #19     Jul 6, 2022
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    For women over 50 without any cardiovascular problems there is ZERO advantage of taking statins when it comes to mortality. I can back this up with studies. The longer version is that their mortality rate stays the same although they die of different cause (cancer vs. heart attack)

    If it was me, I would choose heart attack.

    Not what I was referring to but:

    " The possible side effects of statin therapy are diabetes mellitus, myopathy, and rhabdomyolysis, hepatotoxicity. The side effects of the treatment are more likely to occur in elderly patients, due to their multiple associated comorbidities and drugs that may interact with statins. In elderly people, the benefits and disadvantages of the treatment with statins should be put in balance, especially in those receiving high doses of statins."

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6915405/

    OK, I have found it, in the same link:

    "elderly (between 66 and 75 years old), ....Primary prevention reduces the risk of stroke and myocardial infarction but does not influence all-cause mortality and cardiovascular mortality.

    So they die in the same numbers with statin or without statin.

    For older than 75, the establishment disagrees:

    "In patients more than 75 years old, only the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) guideline recommends initiating statin treatment as primary prevention [13]. On the other hand, the ACC/AHA and CCS guidelines provide that for people above 75 years old there are few pieces of evidence to sustain statin treatment"


    5. Mortensen M.B., Falk E. Primary prevention with statins in the elderly. J. Am. Coll. Cardiol. 2018;71:85–94. doi: 10.1016/j.jacc.2017.10.080. [PubMed] [CrossRef] [Google Scholar]
     
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    #20     Jul 7, 2022