Virginia Tech Shootings ..Terrorists ???

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Joab, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. Narita Airport Ninjas?

    I think I may have seen this once at Iwakuni. But the Ninja's were drunk. Damn Ninja's



     
    #61     Apr 16, 2007
  2. He was pissed about his girlfriend possibly seeing another man.
    That had just a LITTLE more to do with it than playing Halo2.
     
    #62     Apr 16, 2007
  3. pattersb

    pattersb Guest

    "LITTLE"?

    You fail to recognize that men and women have been cheating on one another since time began ... Only recently has it become a regular means to relieve ones frustrations by slaughtering scores of innocent people ...

    Is that really your explanation as to the cause? Cheating? I think you're underestimating the effects of a developing mind being developed in a VERY realistic fanatasy world full of blood-and-guts... Certainly, just one influence amongst many.
     
    #63     Apr 16, 2007
  4. jj90

    jj90

    Ah, thanks Pabst. That's what I get for using yahoo news as the source. Now the motives are still unknown, but I wonder how many of you know this :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China

    google chinese muslims for more.

    On a side note, the reason giving everyone a gun won't work is not because guns are an ineffective deterrent, I personally advocate this idea, but the reality is that not everyone can shoot another person, even in self defense/preservation of own life. For this to work, everyone must be willing to kill in self defense, otherwise the willing will dominate the unwilling.
     
    #64     Apr 17, 2007
  5. YES. I stand by my comment that his girl being with another man had more to do with the rampage than playing a video game.

    I do understand your argument, and yes I believe the realistic games cause an X amount of desensitizing.
     
    #65     Apr 17, 2007
  6. Oh, so you guys are going down that road?...blaming video games for all this?..lol.
     
    #66     Apr 17, 2007
  7. Ya know, my best friend who lives in Chicago and I have a sick obsession with video games...yes, 2 chicks...and I say 'sick' obsession because they are addicting....we are currently on the wait list for Resident Evil 5...and we bought both 'State of Emergency' and all the GTA's and I thoroughly enjoy going ape shit and killing everyone and anything in the game just for fun...and you wanna know how many violent rampages I've gone on in my life..... yeah...0......

    Even when the person doing the violent things is a kid, I still have a problem blaming video games because I wasn't even allowed a tv in my room until I was 16, let alone a video game system. And let's remember in THIS case he's in his 20s...

    Are parents not accountable for their children's actions anymore? jesus h christ


    and I'm not alone in, not by a long shot
    http://jackthompsonisadouche.ytmnd.com/
     
    #67     Apr 17, 2007
  8. "The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree"...."like father, like son".... "monkey see, monkey do"..

    I could go on, but my point is, if you investigate this guys family, I'm sure you'll find more than just skeletons in their closet.

    cm
     
    #68     Apr 17, 2007


  9. Video games have nothing to do with this.

    The blame lies with rampant malignant feminism, over board liberalism and corrupt politicians.

    Women no longer stay at home to rear children. Corporal punishment is frowned upon and kids know they can get away with anything including murder. The glad handing, immoral and corrupt politicians make it harder for families to spend time together by over burdening them with spurious taxes and penalizing parents who decide to stay at home to raise their children.

    Also the fact that most people are stupid and shouldn't be allowed to have children in the first place. Stupid people have stupid children who contribute to the pervasive immorality in todays soceity.
     
    #69     Apr 17, 2007
  10. different take on this:

    Virginia School Shooting: Another Government Black-Op?

    Early details suggest Columbine-style set-up to justify mass gun control, VA Tech has "blood on their hands," banned concealed carry, disarming victims

    Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson
    Prison Planet
    Monday, April 16, 2007


    Early details about the horrific school shooting at Virginia Tech strongly indicate that these events represent a Columbine-style black-op that will be exploited in the coming days to push for mass gun control and further turning our schools into prisons.

    Eyewitness Matt Kazee told the Alex Jones Show that it was a full two to three hours after the shootings began that loudspeakers installed around the campus were used to warn students to stay indoors and that a shooter was on the loose.

    Quite how the killer was afforded so much time before any action was taken to stop him is baffling, especially considering the fact that the campus, according to Kazee, was crawling with police before the event happened due to numerous bomb threats that had been phoned in last week.

    The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported.

    CNN quoted a student who was outraged at the delay in identifying and stopping the killer.

    "What happened today this was ridiculous. And I don't know what happened or what was going through this guy's mind," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "But I'm pretty outraged and I'll say on the record I'm pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 o'clock in the morning and the first e-mail about it — no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes — they just mention that they're investigating a shooting two hours later at 9:22."

    He added: "That's pretty ridiculous and meanwhile, while they're sending out that e-mail, 22 more people got killed."

    The details that are beginning to emerge fill the criteria that this could very well be another government black-op that will be used as justification for more gun control and turing our schools into prisons, festooned with armed guards, surveillance cameras and biometric scanning to gain entry.

    Ironic therefore it is that Virginia is a concealed carry state and yet Virginia Tech campus recently enforced a policy prohibiting "unauthorized possession, storage or control" of firearms on campus. According to gun rights activists such as Aaron Zelman of Jews For The Preservation of Firearms, VA Tech has "blood on its hands" for disarming the victims who could potentially have defended themselves against the killer.

    Initial reports suggested there were two shooters, but the story quickly changed to just one shooter who later killed himself (as happens in almost all these cases) or was shot by police.

    Eyewitness accounts describe police hiding behind trees and failing to pursue the killer, while ordering the school to be placed on lockdown so nobody could escape the carnage as the killer picked off his targets with seemingly little interruption from the police.

    At the moment, the official death toll is 30, but could rise, making this the deadliest school shooting in history.

    If these figures are accurate, the casualty figures surpass those of the school shooting at Columbine in 1999 when Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves.

    It is well documented that disturbing questions remain over the incident at Columbine. It is clear that authorities had prior knowledge of what was going to happen. Observers were in the area hours before the shooting took place. Articles from the Associated Press stated that ballistics from Columbine show that six of the thirteen victims were possibly shot and killed by Jefferson County SWAT.

    In addition, it was never properly explained how Klebold and Harris were able to transport over 100 bombs into the school before the shootings began.

    In the aftermath of Columbine there were calls for vastly increased gun control laws, more than 15 state legislatures passed significant gun control bills or dropped NRA-supported bills.

    In 1996 a similar incident occurred in Dunblane in Scotland where sixteen children and one adult were killed. The resulting inquiry recommended tighter control of handgun ownership, public feeling had turned against private gun ownership, allowing a much more restrictive ban on handguns to pass.

    It then emerged that the killer Thomas Hamilton was heavily involved in Freemasonry, as well as running clubs for young boys, a fact which Labour and Tory ministers acknowledged in correspondence to each other. A a 100-year public secrecy order was placed on the documents, along with the majority of other information relating to the case including the police report. There have been allegations that the lengthy closure order was placed on the report after it linked Hamilton to figures in the Scottish establishment, including two senior politicians and a lawyer.

    In both the Dunblane and Columbine cases the shooters turned the guns on themselves after the killing spree was over.

    We will have more on this story as it unfolds.
     
    #70     Apr 17, 2007