<-----This for teh win. (And yes Van, the local media up here keep blaring on about how she is the first woman, "and person of color" to ever be elected as Boston mayor. Shameful.) If that is the metric they go by, then Trump was a person of color, because he truly had a color! Orange is a true color! Black and white are not colors but contrasts, with shades of grey in between!
Why can't they just say "this incredibly motivated woman who was born in Illinois and went to Harvard, stayed, and against all of the ingrained City Hall politics of our historically tribal B-town community that has resided and ruled here for the last 110 years... won. I mean ok, she's Asian. Or black. Or whatever. She won. Case closed. Who f'ing cares about the color of her skin? Why is it even brought up? I'm a 10 year old kid on a class field trip to Boston... we meet the mayor. She looks Asian. Bfd. We met the mayor! That's all I'll remember. Why the f do I need to be told she's blah blah blah....? I mean is the country really that stupid?! If folks want real change in this world, quit accentuating the differences of people and let good people be good people. Which 99% of us f'ing are.
It is because this country has forgotten good music, and has forgotten to just chill the fuck out. It has lost the idealization of chillin'.
That whole issue as to whether Asians are POC's is evolving in the minds of the progressives, or deteriorating to the rest of us. I noticed too that NPR also referred to her as a person of color. I single them out because I know for a fact that they have had programs with guests that were very lefty but laid out the reasons why they objected to including Asians in that category. So the lefties are still trying to make it up as the go along so who can know what the right answer is. The problem seems to be that lots of Asians are successful in including Asian Indians so many lefties want the POC definition to mean you are still marginalized in some ways. (just play along, it is all absurd). So for example if you are from Hyderabad and run a small tech company you are no longer a POC but if you are Filipino working at the seafood processing plant you are still POC. But- and it gets complicated- it is still okay to use the term POC if you are just using it emphasize that you are not whitey, but not going so far as to claim some benefit from it that might take away from blacks. So, we see that in play in Boston. The lefties lean over backwards to highlight that Michelle Mu, the mayor elect is a person of color. But if she or a family member cross the Charles River to try to apply to Harvard or MIT these days, then those institutions keep going to the court to argue that Asians are not real POC's if by that you mean "worthy and eligible for affirmative action entry and related benefits." Ironically, Michelle actually got into Harvard Law before it got too crazy and she is an acolyte and former student of Pocahontas. So she knows the games that can be played with all this stuff. Just ask Poco. This whole POC dilemma is actually getting worse. Just a couple years ago we would not be having this discussion. The media would just say that Boston had elected "an Asian American." A perfectly fine and respectful honorific. The problem is that the progressives are at war with the Asian Americans these days and with all Americans and with all references to America or someone's nationality. They particularly target Asians with their hatred because they think that Asians embody a lot of American virtues, strengths, and loyalties. HORRORS!. You have probably read the manifesto that the progressives keep spouting: ie. math is racist, nuclear families suck and mommy has a dick, technology, business skills, long term planning for life goals, working hard, studying hard,, pursuing intellectual type things is all colonial white man legacy stuff. Yeh, right. How many Asians believe that? Probably the ugliest manifestation of this was a while back when the loon on the San Francisco School Board said that her issue was that "many Asians use white supremacist strategies to get ahead." Man, that is raw and ugly. So my point again is that some of lefties use this POC thing in regard to Asians as long as it is just to point out that "whitey lost another race" but if you start using it to mean that they are real POC'S like blacks (their argument, not mine) they start getting twitchy real fast. Thus, it is weaponized term that gets exploited and used and abused as needed. Having said all of that, I have not laid any criticism on to Michelle Mu. I read a little snippet about how she - while still a student- was caring for her mom, and siblings and moved them to Boston to live with her while she was still struggling herself. I put points up on the board for her for that regardless of what her politics are or are not. You may recall that Andrew Yang said "I am Trump's worst fear- an Asian guy who loves math." To be honest, that was pretty effin funny. But also, to be honest, he is the progressives/squad's worst fear too. Yeh, he is an Asian guy using white supremacist strategies to get ahead, or so the argument goes with some.
That's quite an answer, thanks, and I had a feeling it was too complicated of a subject for a simple yes or no, that's why I asked. Is there a counter-point to what you wrote? I wonder what someone across the table would say if you gave this answer on Meet The Press. What would they say? I mean it seems like everything you have written is true. Is there a dissent for this(?), because I sure would like to hear it if there is. Where's Ocho?
AOC argues that dems lost in Virginia because they kept the progressives out or circles around making that point anyway. Let the viewers decide. No doubt the progressives could have fired up some dems but at what cost? The republicans would have loved to have them show up there too. Her point is not without merit though. Even though the progressives are radioactive if the dems think they are going to fire up dems in swing states in the midterms just by bringing the old dnc retreads and ghosts from Christmas past around that is not going to work. Even the newer-to-the-national-scene dems, such as Kamala, are not firing anyone up except their immediate family members. Quite a dilemma they have. Hope it gets worse. Probably it will, everything else that they have touched is getting worse. Ocasio-Cortez: Virginia results show limits of 'trying to run a fully 100% super-moderated campaign' Ocasio-Cortez, in a video posted to her Instagram account, went further to say that progressives “weren’t even really invited to contribute on that race,” pointing to other Democratic wins throughout the country. “I know that Virginia was a huge bummer. And honestly, if anything, I think that the results show the limits of trying to run a fully 100% super-moderated campaign that does not excite, speak to or energize a progressive base,” she said. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...how-limits-of-trying-to-run-a-fully-100-super
It’s not rocket science. Sometimes people outsmart themselves and dig around looking for the bogeyman but usually the correct answer is right in front of your face. White suburban women are the swing voters in America for almost 30 years now. This is as true of a point of political science as South Carolina chooses democrat presidential nominees. It just is. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...-propel-republicans-victory-virginia-n1283153
That's the standard leftist response every time they lose. We weren't crazy enough, we need to push further left. This is how a party gets to a point that if a JFK type came along and said, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country, that person would be considered a radical right white nationalist domestic terrorist. They actually believe that it's everyone else who moved right when in fact they've gone so far left the center seems far right them. They are after all the party of intellectuals and it's just not possible that sane and rational people would reject their ideas. Can't be, push further left comrades
So much to push back on here but also a real point to be made about the current socialistas in the Democratic Party. What is agreeable and worth pointing out is that time after time the more so-called progressives push left the more they get beat back.