Virginia police officers sued after altercation with Army 2nd lieutenant

Discussion in 'Politics' started by userque, Apr 11, 2021.

  1. userque

    userque

    We disagree on your 'do nothing' conclusion.

    Progress has been made, albeit slowly. That progress is a result of all factors. We can't isolate any one factor, go back in time, and see how it would have performed by itself; or to know how much it contributes to the whole, or not. I say, keep firing on all cylinders.

    We agree as to criminal liability. There needs to be more of it.

    Walmart security guards don't walk around with qualified immunity. If I execute a citizen's arrest, I don't get the luxury of qualified immunity.
     
    #11     Apr 11, 2021
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    The people they should be most cautious against they aren't










     
    #12     Apr 11, 2021
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  3. I know there's situations where cops are on their own, but hard to believe the carelessness in how they treated a known drug trafficker in that first video. Apparently Homeland Security didn't report that to the officer. He probably would have been a lot more careful had they done that.
     
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    #13     Apr 11, 2021
  4. And yet the US isn't even in the top ten countries that have these problems. Whatever...
     
    #14     Apr 11, 2021
  5. userque

    userque

    Typically, a cop would have had the suspect exit the vehicle, with hands raised and always in view, and at gun point. The cop was very sloppy/trusting.

    Cop or civilian ... always be aware of another's hands when in a sketchy situation. It becomes a habit after awhile.

    Like the OP suggests ... the cop gave the guy the benefit of the doubt ... of course.
     
    #15     Apr 11, 2021
  6. ph1l

    ph1l

    Sgt. pepper sprayer is now unemployed.
    https://thepublicsradio.org/article/officer-accused-of-force-in-stop-of-black-army-officer-fired
     
    #16     Apr 12, 2021
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  7. Fain

    Fain

    What are you talking about. Racism is in the media as its a major political issue and very topical.
    Top 10 of what? out of 195 countries? that's a shitty way to look at things.

    incarceration rate, gun deaths, along with racial inequality. It leads in a lot of those areas.
     
    #17     Apr 12, 2021

  8. This is the biggest issue.... the training is just so piss poor when you look at FBI/CIA/Military training compared to cops.

    The cops are poorly trained to be out there with these kind of dangers. Letting a man carry his own weapon out fully loaded to approach the officer???

    Now look at race. Black guy Castille TOLD the officer he had a gun and it was near him and the officer kept his gun pointed at him the entire time and unloaded a few shots into his chest.

    In the first video the white guy is allowed to grab his gun and get out of his own car with it even though the officer said he wanted to take it for his own safety. Like I am going to believe if he was black the officer would have turned his back on someone armed?

    Training is shit and cops are not only dying for it but so are regular citizens. At least in the 3rd and 4th video the suspect was shot before he could do any harm.
     
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  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    First 2 seconds in the video.Cop is scooping up snow in his hands and shoving it into the mans nose and mouth

     
    #19     Apr 12, 2021
  10. userque

    userque