Violations of Islamic teachings can be hazardous to Iraqi women's health

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by dddooo, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The images in the Basra police file are nauseating: Page after page of women killed in brutal fashion -- some strangled to death, their faces disfigured; others beheaded. All bear signs of torture.

    The women are killed, police say, because they failed to wear a headscarf or because they ignored other "rules" that secretive fundamentalist groups want to enforce.

    Iraq's second-largest city, Basra, is a stronghold of conservative Shia groups. As many as 133 women were killed in Basra last year -- 79 for violation of "Islamic teachings" and 47 for so-called honor killings, according to IRIN, the news branch of the U.N.'s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

    One glance through the police file is enough to understand the consequences. Basra's police chief, Gen. Abdul Jalil Khalaf, flips through the file, pointing to one unsolved case after another. Video Watch Khalaf show evidence of the brutality »

    "I think so far, we have been unable to tackle this problem properly," he says. "There are many motives for these crimes and parties involved in killing women, by strangling, beheading, chopping off their hands, legs, heads."

    "When I came to Basra a year ago," he says, "two women were killed in front of their kids. Their blood was flowing in front of their kids, they were crying. Another woman was killed in front of her 6-year-old son, another in front of her 11-year-old child, and yet another who was pregnant."

    The killers enforcing their own version of Islamic justice are rarely caught, while women live in fear.

    Boldly splattered in red paint just outside the main downtown market, a chilling sign reads: "We warn against not wearing a headscarf and wearing makeup. Those who do not abide by this will be punished. God is our witness, we have notified you."

    The attacks on the women of Basra have intensified since British forces withdrew to their base at the airport back in September, police say. Iraqi security forces took over after British troops pulled back, but are heavily infiltrated by militias.
  2. My God, my god!
    Ladies and gentlemen, we have to overturn Roe V Wade immediately, if we are to hope to gain control of the atrocity's going on in Iraq. Instigating a constitutional amendment against same sex marriage to strengthen family values is the surest defense against those who hate us for our freedoms. Last, but not least, we need to cut taxes so a new surge in our military can be properly funded.

    Without taking action on these measures I have outlined above, the terrorist will be emboldened to strike at the very hart of our country.

    Remember, the liberals want mushroom clouds on our horizon! They think they're pretty.
  3. ddd,

    Actually this is a very good reason to install foot baths in universities. It is important to have clean feet before prayer.
  4. hmmm, how many US women soldiers were killed in combat "over there". Seems quite hazardous to their health.

    We are just as fanatical, if the US army recuiters could take 14 years old to fill their quota, they would.

    How many women have died due to US sancations and waste from the DU weapons? Anyone have stats on that, are we allowed to see it?

    Let's wipe out wife beating and jealous men who kill their wives/girlfriend in our own country, first, before we take a moral high ground.

    not sure what the seond poster is getting at. Wife killing leads to mushroom clouds? How will invading a country 1000's of miles overseas make your country any safer?

    Can anyone tell me one country that the USA has "liberated" using its State violence? Anyone??

    (Yes, I hate profitable US State-sponsored violence and terror, it goes against my Christian princples, that's my clear agenda).
  5. Oh dear, what's this from an official govt. web site?

    "According to recent studies, 20 percent of teenage girls and young women have experienced some form of dating violence"

    We are not barbaric, I guess... :(
  6. (Yes, I hate profitable US State-sponsored violence and terror, it goes against my Christian princples,


    lol. Based on your Christian principles of "I hate" reminds me of Grouch Marx, "If you don't like my principles, well then, I have others".
  7. Who would Jesus bomb lol

    Interesting though, no matter how much I hate the USA's killing it never drives ME to commit violence! Never.
    I only think of peaceful ways to protest (like typing on here).
    Does that fit with Jesus's principles?

    Say, the army only has guns, but not anyone trained to hold free and fair trials of democracy. How then, does an army spread Democracy?

    How would the USA Army stop wife killing in Iraq unless you can hold a free and fair trial in order to determine who is really a wife beater/killer?
    Maybe the army should occupy our own cities on order to wipe out crime and spousal abuse?
  8. Let's wipe out wife beating and jealous men who kill their wives/girlfriend in our own country, first, before we take a moral high ground.
    Your arguement is quite common on many different fronts.

    My point is although we're not perfect, shouldn"t we at least try somewhat. We may come across as "more" moral or superior or democracy = freedom or capitalist, this is better than keeping silent.
  9. No, you also rail against the US and do all you can to promote your agenda that the US is the evil empire responsible for all the misery in the world, while you hold those who would gladly decapitate your pacifist ass as victim freedom fighters who just want to be left alone.

    You're a moonbat, TT2, plain and simple. We all know it. Just accept it.

    It's so telling that you and your moonbat comrade chucky ells have nothing to say about the first post in this thread other than point to domestic violence statistics in the US, and completely ignore the horrific deaths of so many Iraqi women.
  10. Ex-Dutch MP and Islamic critic Hirsi Ali seeks French nationality

    Former Dutch lawmaker Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the target of death threats over criticism of radical Islam, said Sunday she has asked France to grant her citizenship

    A prominent critic of Islam, Hirsi Ali wrote the screenplay of the film Submission, a fictional study of abused Muslim women with scenes of near-naked women with Quranic texts engraved on their flesh.

    The film's director, Theo van Gogh, was killed by a Muslim extremist in Amsterdam in 2004. Hirsi Ali was threatened in a note left on his body. She now lives in the United States, guarded day and night...

    #10     Feb 10, 2008