Video| Fine Tuning from the Top Scientists

Now Stu enough of your bullshit... here is the question....

According to top cosmologists like Susskind, is one explanation for the appearance of fine tuning in our universe... a Tuner.

Yes or No.


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Enough of my bullshit?? LOL. That's a good one!

The answer to your childish simplistic contextomy is No.

For one thing, top cosmologist Susskind never mentions the word 'Tuner'.

For another it's obvious, an explanation without explanation is no explanation, whether it's according to a top cosmologist or not.

An explanation that is no explanation will suffice enough for your religion, but not for science.

You may as well be hopping about with.. "wooo..Susskind said god so it's science"

Come to think of it, that's pretty much what you have been doing for those seven years.
Pathetic really.

 

Now Stu enough of even more of your childish bullshit... (Tuner with a capital T is the same as God for all intents and purposes here)

here is the question....

According to top cosmologists like Susskind, is one explanation for the appearance of fine tuning in our universe... a God.

Yes or No.

Hint - Susskind give you the answer at about 6 mins and 15 seconds.


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Bollocks it is.
God is an explanation that isn't explained. In other words, basically useless as an explanation. As useless and unscientific as the 'who knows' explanation.

Gravity is the 'Tuner'. Gravity is why stars and planets form. It is an explanation and it is explained .


Btw..If you are posting the Susskind vid a thousand times in the hope it will will change itself to say things it doesn't, you're going to be disapointed.

Hope that helps.

 

more childish crap.

there is a world famous cosmologist... telling you that you are full of shit... for the last 7 years... because God is one of the explanations. He says it right in the video.

yet your new anti science argument is that you want the atheist cosmologist who wrote the book speculating about another possible explanation for the fine tunings... you want that guy... the guy who wrote the book to explain God to you.


what a bullshitter you are.



“If there is only one universe,” British cosmologist Bernard Carr says, “you might have to have a fine-tuner. If you don’t want God, you’d better have a multiverse.” (Discover, December 2008)

 

God is an explanation that isn't explained. In other words, basically useless as an explanation. As useless and unscientific as the 'who knows' explanation.

Gravity is a 'Tuner' that is explained.

Get over it.

 

You are distorting science again. I have explained this to you. Hawking makes his quote about gravity in the context of top down cosmology... an extremely speculative idea.

Far more speculative than the idea that an extremely tuned universe would have a Tuner.

As a good faith non troll effort.... why don't you explain how gravity could:


1. create a universe
2. create an extremely fine tuned universe without almost infinite tries.

this time trying quoting science or show us papers supporting science.

If you are going to engage in speculation about inflation... please explain whether the theory upon which you rely is proven or hightly speculative... part of a thought experiment thought up by Guth and relying on unproven quantum gravity. Then go back and review his video earlier in this thread.

Basically your argument about gravity does not explain the fine tuning of our universe.

 

In good faith?You? pfft.
You're the one deciding for yourself what is and isn't speculative based on whether it has the word god in it or not. Good faith my ass.

Create a universe?
Particles coming into existence from nothing is proven. Being no need for god to magically make things appear, is proven already.

Create a fine tuned universe?
In your universe, the one where Elvis lives, things may be fine-tuned. The real universe has a particular though approximate value not yet accounted for, which by lacking proper explanation, is sometimes speculated to be finely tuned. There is no science however that shows it is finely tuned.

The only one constantly attempting to distort science by stating the universe is finely tuned, is yourself.


You are also trying to assert that incomplete scientific hypotheses drawn from and explained through math, general relativity, quantum mechanics and the laws of physics, is exactly the same as the irrational speculation of a make-believe and imaginary 'Tuner' god in the sky, which has no explanation at all.
You purposefully choose an uninformed and patheticaly infantile position to start from.

Science is ever the only means by which speculation is taken towards proven.
Science is explanations explained.
Religion is explanations unexplained, which is no explanation at all.


There is nothing more highly speculative than god. Trying to crowbar it into everything wherever information is incomplete is merely one way the religiously desperate like yourself are always trying and failing to justify their nonsense .

 

more bullshit and no science or scientists from Stu.

why don't you explain how Susskind and just about every other scientist is wrong when they say the cosmological constant is tuned to over 120 decimal places.

 

Susskind and just about every other scientist don't say is fine tuned. Religious nuts say is fine tuned.
There is no science that shows the cosmological constant is fine tuned.

No science or scientists from me? You've shown how that would be completely pointless. That's how bankrupt your silly crap is.
You can't even watch a tape without altering the wording used in it, trying to change meaning.
Learn to be honest first then you might start to understand what's actually being said to you in plain English.