thanks! I just heard about Darvas' first book for the first time a few weeks back and am about halfway through it, I liked his insights on trading boxes and trailing stops, very good book. just ordered this other one, thx for the tip. even tho I don't trade otc, there's likely some decent trade entry/exit/mgmt tips in there, too -k p.s. here's another two by him: http://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-N...d_dp_1c_1_t_0?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=books http://www.amazon.com/Still-Market-...d_dp_1c_1_t_0?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=books boxes, like trading ranges, I identify using bull/bear large multiday cup patterns; works well on volume breakouts w/ADX