Very new to trading --- tips

Discussion in 'Trading' started by indioo, Jun 15, 2003.

  1. Rule #1: Predefine your risk.
     
    #21     Jun 16, 2003
  2. rule #2
    know what your good at and poor at, adapt to it

    I know I wet my pants if I hold a winner for more than a quarter so Ive become a microscalper.... that kind of stuff
     
    #22     Jun 16, 2003
  3. Read everything you can find by Linda Bradford Raschke, she has awebsite but I don't have the url at hand.

    Devote 90% of your time to learning backtesting software like wealthlab and find out what doesn't work. That will confirm to you the above quote about 99% of what you read being bs.
     
    #23     Jun 16, 2003

  4. www.lbrgroup.com
     
    #24     Jun 16, 2003
  5. so that when you think you're clicking "BUY", you'll actually be clicking "SELL" and vice versa.

    The Road to Riches is not far off!

    read, trade, and hang on to your capital!

    dog
     
    #25     Jun 16, 2003
  6. prox

    prox

    38 steps to becoming a trader



    1. We accumulate information - buying books, going to seminars and
    researching.
    2. We begin to trade with our 'new' knowledge.
    3. We consistently 'donate' and then realize we may need more
    knowledge or information.
    4. We accumulate more information.
    5. We switch the commodities we are currently following.
    6. We go back into the market and trade with our 'updated' knowledge.
    7. We get 'beat up' again and begin to lose some of our confidence.
    Fear starts setting in.
    8. We start to listen to 'outside news' and to other traders.
    9. We go back into the market and continue to 'donate'.
    10. We switch commodities again.
    11. We search for more information.
    12. We go back into the market and start to see a little progress.
    13. We get 'over-confident' and the market humbles us.
    14. We start to understand that trading successfully is going to
    take more time and more knowledge than we anticipated.

    MOST PEOPLE WILL GIVE UP AT THIS POINT,
    AS THEY REALIZE WORK IS INVOLVED.

    15. We get serious and start concentrating on learning a 'real'
    methodology.
    16. We trade our methodology with some success, but realize that
    something is missing.
    17. We begin to understand the need for having rules to apply our
    methodology.
    18. We take a sabbatical from trading to develop and research our
    trading rules.
    19. We start trading again, this time with rules and find some
    success, but over all we still hesitate when it comes time to
    execute.
    20. We add, subtract and modify rules as we see a need to be more
    proficient with our rules.
    21. We feel we are very close to crossing that threshold of
    successful trading.
    22. We start to take responsibility for our trading results as we
    understand that our success is in us, not the methodology.
    23. We continue to trade and become more proficient with our
    methodology and our rules.
    24. As we trade we still have a tendency to violate our rules and our
    results are still erratic.
    25. We know we are close.
    26. We go back and research our rules.
    27. We build the confidence in our rules and go back into the market
    and trade.
    28. Our trading results are getting better, but we are still
    hesitating in executing our rules.
    29. We now see the importance of following our rules as we see the
    results of our trades when we don't follow the rules.
    30. We begin to see that our lack of success is within us (a lack of
    discipline in following the rules because of some kind of fear)
    and we begin to work on knowing ourselves better.
    31. We continue to trade and the market teaches us more and more
    about ourselves.
    32. We master our methodology and our trading rules.
    33. We begin to consistently make money.
    34. We get a little over-confident and the market humbles us.
    35. We continue to learn our lessons.
    36. We stop thinking and allow our rules to trade for us (trading
    becomes boring, but successful) and our trading account
    continues to grow as we increase our contract size.
    37. We are making more money than we ever dreamed possible.
    38. We go on with our lives and accomplish many of the goals we had
    always dreamed of.

    Most traders will identify with this list and should be able to place
    themselves within these steps. Keep in mind that very few people
    progress through these steps in an orderly fashion. Developing your
    trading skills is an iterative process. For example, you may reach
    Step 13, find that although you were making money, your basic
    premise for trading was flawed (you might have been benefiting from
    the bull market, rather than your own trading prowess and then have
    been rudely awakened when the market entered a bear phase) and you
    may drop back to Step 4 and start 'climbing' the steps again.
    Having the proper mindset, attitude and psychological makeup becomes
    increasingly important as you progress through the steps. The focus
    of the earlier steps is on external issues, i.e. developing
    proficiency in the mechanics of trading while the focus of the
    latter steps (particularly from Step 30, on) is on internal issues,
    i.e. improving ourselves mentally and psychologically, maturing as
    traders.

    --

    Ironic thing is, you really can't skip any of these steps.
     
    #26     Jun 16, 2003
  7. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I've read so many list of rules over the years, most of which are crap. I don't recall when I first encountered this particular list, but it was and remains the only one that is of real value.

    Only problem is that those who need it most are those who are least likely to benefit from it because it contains no recipes.
     
    #27     Jun 16, 2003
  8. I recently graduated with a B.S. in finance from a decent school. I just started working for a proprietary trading firm about 4 weeks ago and I am currently training and trading from a demo account. Some good books that I have read and that were recommended are "The Electronic Day Trader" by Marc Friedfertig, and "Technician's Guide to Day and Swing Trading" (CD included) by Martin J. Pring. Hope they help, good luck bro
     
    #28     Jun 16, 2003
  9. monee

    monee

    These rules seem familiar....
    They are so so accurate they almost seem eery.

    Great post!
     
    #29     Jun 16, 2003
  10. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    #30     Jun 16, 2003