Verizon FIOS

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Bob111, Nov 6, 2005.

  1. Bob111


    is any of fellow ET members using this service? recently verizon dig every square foot around my neighborhood installing their stuff. now all of sudden i start having problems with comcast cable and ready to try verizon, but their agremeent was full of surprizes and not really friendly, if you compare with comcast user agreement for example.
    here is couple things-

    E. You may not use the Broadband Service to host any type of server personal or commercial in nature.
    3.7 Verizon reserves the right to audit connections electronically to enforce these or any other provision of the Agreement.

    we not allowed to play online and create online server for it? man..

    We reserve the right to update, upgrade or change the Software and related settings on your computer and software necessary for such update, upgrade, or change from time to time, and you agree to cooperate in performing such steps as may be necessary to install any updates or upgrades to the Software

    14.4 Verizon Network. For the purposes of backup and maintenance, we may use, copy, display, store, transmit, translate, rearrange, reformat, view and distribute your information to multiple Verizon servers. We do not guarantee that these procedures will prevent the loss of, alteration of, or the improper access to, your information.

    14.5 Monitor of Network Performance. Verizon automatically measures and monitors network performance and the performance of your Internet connection and our network as part of this process. We also will access and record information about your computer’s profile and settings and the installation of software we provide in order to provide customized technical support and you agree to permit us to access and record such data for the purposes described in this Agreement

    here is the killer-



    3. You may NOT use the Service as follows: (a) for any unlawful, improper or illegal purpose or activity; (b) to post or transmit information or communications that, whether explicitly stated, implied, or suggested through use of symbols, are obscene, indecent, pornographic, sadistic, cruel, or racist in content, or of a sexually explicit or graphic nature; or which espouses, promotes or incites bigotry, hatred or racism; or which might be legally actionable for any reason; (c) to access or attempt to access the accounts of others, to spoof or attempt to spoof the URL or DNS or IP addresses of Verizon or any other entity, or to attempt to penetrate or penetrate security measures of Verizon or other entities' systems ("hacking") whether or not the intrusion results in corruption or loss of data; (d) to bombard individuals or newsgroups with uninvited communications, data or information, or other similar activities, including but not limited to "spamming", "flaming" or denial or distributed denial of service attacks; (e) to transmit unsolicited voluminous emails (for example, spamming) or to intercept, interfere with or redirect email intended for third parties using the Service; (f) to introduce viruses, worms, harmful code and/or Trojan horses on the Internet; (g) to post information on newsgroups which is not in the topic area or charter (e.g. off-topic posting) of the newsgroup; (h) to interfere with another person's usage or enjoyment of the Internet or this Service; (i) to post or transmit information or communications that are defamatory, fraudulent, obscene or deceptive, including but not limited to scams such as "make-money-fast" schemes or "pyramid/chain" letters; (j) to damage the name or reputation of Verizon, its parent, affiliates and subsidiaries, or any third parties; (k) to transmit confidential or proprietary information, except solely at your own risk; (l) to violate Verizon's or any third party's copyright, trademark, proprietary or other intellectual property rights, including trade secret rights; (m) to use more than one IP address obtained from Verizon; (n) to generate excessive amounts (as determined by Verizon in its sole discretion) of Internet traffic, or to disrupt net user groups or email use by others; (o) to engage in activities designed to or having the effect of degrading or denying Service to Verizon users or others (including activities that compromise a server, router, circuit, software or other Internet component ; (p) to use any name or mark of Verizon, its parent, affiliates or subsidiaries, as a hypertext link to any Web site or in any advertising publicity or other commercial manner; (q) to use the Service to operate a server in a manner that interferes with the network or other users’ use of the Service; (r) to use the Service or the Internet in a manner intended to threaten, harass, intimidate; (s) to cause the screen to "scroll" faster than other subscribers or users are able to type to it, or any action that has a similar disruptive effect, on or through the Service; (t) to use the Service to disrupt the normal flow of online dialogue, (u) to use the Service to violate any operating rule, policy or guideline of any other online services provider or interactive service; (v) to attempt to subvert or to aid third parties to subvert, the security of any computer facility or system connected to the Internet; (w) to impersonate any Verizon employee or official or other person or use a false name while using the Service or implying an association with Verizon; (x) to install "auto-responders," "cancel-bots" or similar automated or manual routines which generate excessive amounts of net traffic, or disrupt net user groups or email use by others; (y) to make false or unverified complaints against any Verizon subscriber, or otherwise abusing any of Verizon's complaint response procedures; (z) to use software or any other device that would allow your account to stay logged on while you are not actively using the Service, unless you are a Broadband customer; (aa) to export software or any information in violation of US export laws; (bb) to use the Service in contravention of the limitations of the pricing plan you have chosen; (cc) for Broadband customers who use static IP address, to use an IP address other than the one assigned by Verizon; (dd) for customer who have been assigned a dynamic IP address to use such IP address to circumvent the changing of IP addresses assigned by the Service or (ee) to open connections to more than one Verizon Usenet news service at a time.

    so-i'm subscribing for 15mbps service, but not allowed to create traffic and post off topic messages on forums?
    wow! that was something...

    any expirience with fios? what software they talking about?
    i'm going to call them tomorrow, but it would be interesting to hear other members opinion on this service.

    Thank you!
  2. cmaxb


    Hmmm...I get 15 mbps through Cox. But my experience with Verizon has been very negative. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Will probably be worse with MCI. I think it is a very big company that grew through acquisition and not all of the systems are integrated. To me a very bad sign is when you call somebody up, but they will not give you their name or a way to reach them ever again. Each time you call, you must start over again with your issue.
  3. I have 15/2 Verizon FIOS service and its great. Those restrictions are pretty draconian but I think its just legal CYA and they dont really apply unless you cause Verizon problems or they start getting lots of complains about your behavior.

    Lots of good FIOS info here from folks that have it :
  4. We use verizon services at two locations: no issues. The agreement cited is a consumer agreement. These basically say that the vendor can do anything they want, with no gaurantee of service.

    If you are concerned about all this then you can get a gauranteed service agreement for significantly more money - although in a residential neighborhood this is not always possible.