Vanzandt vs. Destriero Trading Competition

Discussion in 'Journals' started by destriero, Jun 29, 2018.

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  1. destriero

    destriero


    Wrong thread, Mate.
     
    #381     Jul 3, 2018
  2. When I see traders keep saying something like "I should have..." or "I could have...", it proves to me that he/she has no professional trading skills because he speculates too much for himself. So far, this competition only confirms what I already believed in :D:D:D
     
    #382     Jul 3, 2018
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  3. destriero

    destriero

    Notes on the pre-holiday trading are short. GOOGL was in the crapper all day and will reverse half of this move on Thursday. I'd be long GOOGL here but got busy with other things before the early-close. All primary positions gained today. I will go long GOOGL if it's not up more than $6 at the open.
     
    #383     Jul 3, 2018
  4. RRY16

    RRY16

    They have a bar at the Del Mar Racetrack aptly named Shoulda Woulda Coulda!
     
    #384     Jul 3, 2018
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  5. raf_bcn

    raf_bcn

    Hi
    wow. Very interesting thread. These butterflies are different. When I first saw one I though it was a broken wing butterfly because have more contracts in one side. But
    the maxim lose is the same one side and another.
    I suppose you have explained why a thousand of times. I will follow this thread very carefully.

    Thank you.
     
    #385     Jul 3, 2018
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  6. destriero

    destriero


    Thanks for following.

    The (OTM) wing strike is half the distance to maintain the debit req. I started to use them analytically for quoting R/R before trading them. I use a different skew-valuation now, but I trade these more than classic 121 flies and calendars.

    I use a directional model for single-names (no skew model) and both directional and skew/stickiness models for index. Generally they (132s/231s) are best utilized as bear positions in index over longer-duration holds.
     
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    #386     Jul 3, 2018

  7. I like to break them down into easier-to-visualize components. 1-3-2 butterfly into:
    • 1-2-1 Butterfly. Maximum loss equal on either side.
    • 0-1-1 Credit spread. Maximum loss on the right hand side.
    Together the 1-3-2 butterfly has a greater loss on the right.
     
    #387     Jul 3, 2018
  8. Incorrect.
     
    #388     Jul 3, 2018

  9. Could you post more info?
     
    #389     Jul 3, 2018

  10. You are assuming the strikes are equidistant.....

    It is because you are so quick to want to explain and educate and you did not even take the extra second to study the position. Tsk Tsk

    :) lol
     
    #390     Jul 3, 2018
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